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[Captain Willard]

I haven't found a thread entitled about this topic, so here it is.

There is a fine for overstaying on a visit visa.

The question is the mechanics and consequences of that result.

From what I have read, it is the sponsor who must ultimately pay the fine, usually. (Or if not, under what circumstances is the "visitor" required to pay the fine?) The usual practice, as I understand it, is that the sponsor may withhold money to pay for the fine, but the sponsor still ultimately is responsible for the fine.

Would the same rule apply about washing a passport if an overstay happened on a visit visa?

Please stay on topic. We all know what the visit visa is de jure and how it is used de facto. Consider this an academic discussion of a practical reality of teaching here that preserves a human right to leave this place when we have the need.

[scot47]

A good chance to see the inside of an Arabian chowki. This could provide excellent material for your biography, "Buggered in Buraidah Nick".

[wantok]

Likely there are threads devoted to this topic.

See 6 & 7: https://www.moi.gov.sa/wps/portal/!ut/p/b1/jZDLDoIwEEW_xS_o1ClQlqSxpYAEJKB0Y1gQg-GxMX6_QNxSmN0k52TuXGJITX2PMs4AGXkQMzbf7tV8umls-mU37lOlVYEqRApSX0DnOopQVSgSdwbqGYCNCWD1HZEJza9IVVZ6cJYei4Qbc4jZ398CGB67L1QQMi8B4IlyQAdhefNzRAgO-paAO37RjuROjPXN5YsVsMVcAVuPe02m4TS0ZDC9lJIX-s1OP2dVXcU!/dl4/d5/L0lDU0lKSWdrbUEhIS9JRFJBQUlpQ2dBek15cXchLzRKQ2lEb01OdEJqdEJIZmxDRUEhL1o3X0IwMEU5QjFBME8wMDgwSUhKNUdCTzUwMEk3LzA!/?WCM_PORTLET=PC_Z7_B00E9B1A0O0080IHJ5GBO500I7000000_WCM&WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=/wps/wcm/connect/moi+diwan/moi+home+content/home/regulation/iqama+system+violations+_+penalties/moi_iqama+system+violations+_+penalties_default_en

If you are illegal, what you may regard as your "human rights" are compromised at any rate.

Why are you using this website to promote your illegal agenda?

[Abdullah the Enforcer]

[Captain Willard]

Confusion from the difference between the Western calendar and the local lunar calendar has caused people to overstay these visas. I have read of fines being issued for this offense, but never people getting jailed. Perhaps if the overstay is inadvertent the local authorities are more forgiving?

I don't think they send people to India for this problem, or Oman for that matter.

It is so flattering that you want to read my biography, but there are many chapters yet to write.

[Captain Willard]

Yes, it is not my "illegal" agenda which is at issue here, but that of the employers who use this visa. Because the usage of such visas is common and accepted by Saudi authorities, it is, therefore, worthy of discussion for the many who are here with such visas and may have problems.

[spiral78]

Out of my territory here, but I would like to draw a parallel.

In the EU, there are some employers who will hire teachers from outside the EU who do not have working visas, but who come over as tourists. It's illegal on both sides, employer and employee.

However, it's the illegal worker who bears by far the greater risk of being caught and facing penalties.

This is why I have spent time and energy trying to tell people about the risks and to encourage them to think twice and three times before coming over knowing that they will be working illegally.

Seems to me that it's the same in the ME. Sure, dodgy employers will take advantage of easier, faster, probably cheaper illegal workers, but ultimately, it's the employee taking the biggest risk.

People should really be aware of the risks; there are far fewer protections for illegal expat workers than for legal citizens (even those engaged in dodgy business practices) in any country - it's just a given.

[P_Pace]

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[cmp45]

Here's one fellow's blog info and personal experiences along with other links regarding KSA and various Saudi visas...not much new information mind you...just more personal horror stories. Maybe helpful...maybe not?
http://leanman.hubpages.com/hub/Saudi-Arabia-Visa