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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the size of population and territories in North America, one would expect MORE accent variation, but there seems to be far less than any region in the UK. Go to Belfast, for example, and your accent could give away your religious or political sympathies. London, a massive area too, and your class is instantly revealed. Surrounding counties all a hodge-podge of local accents, very limited by geography.

Nothing like the massive uniformity in North America over vast tracts.
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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:


But seriously, are posters here really trying to claim that there is more accent variety in the US than anywhere else in the anglophone world?

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Nope. Haven't seen any claim to that effect. Invisible ink, maybe? Or, I auppose I could have fallen asleep while reading--it's been known to happen.

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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sroetem wrote:


Wow. I had no idea. I was always under the impression that there was more variation in dialects in the 50 states than in any other Eng speaking nation. I have been to all 50 of them, by the way. We learn something new everyday.


This is such a claim, I think, isn't it? Some wiggle room with the accent/dialect thingy...
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

Tsk, tsk - resorting to the "straw man" fallacy, I see. Actually, I believe a review of the posts will show that the only person making such a CLAIM has been you


This most certainly is NOT such a "claim."

"Wow. I had no idea. I was always under the impression that there was more variation in dialects in the 50 states than in any other Eng speaking nation. I have been to all 50 of them, by the way. We learn something new everyday."

Shame on you Very Happy

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John
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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
sroetem wrote:


Wow. I had no idea. I was always under the impression that there was more variation in dialects in the 50 states than in any other Eng speaking nation. I have been to all 50 of them, by the way. We learn something new everyday.


This is such a claim, I think, isn't it? Some wiggle room with the accent/dialect thingy...


No, I didn't read that as such a claim. I took the poster to be saying that while he had thought it to be true in the past, he no longer does. He is now enlightened and sees his earlier belief to be false.

"I was always under the impression . . .We learn something new everyday."

Perhaps sroetem will return and enlighten us as to whether he was claiming the fact of greater accent variation in the US! Laughing Laughing

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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I detect a shameful inability to detect sarcasm on the part of said poster? Tsk tsk...
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat

Tsk tsk, accusing me of straw man fallacies... yawn. You should know better by now. I have only to resort to clear ideological inevitability : )


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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

That's the LAST straw Very Happy

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John
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat

The last drop, as we say here in the Motherland.


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Sasha
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Toast



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a room, luvbirds!

For what it's worth, John I'm glad you posted it here, not letting it wallow over in some North American forum.

Found it interesting even as a non-American teaching in Asia to see how significantly varied some of the regional dialects / accents can be.

Does anyone actually use the expression "The Devil is beating his wife"?
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toast wrote:
Get a room, luvbirds!



Dear Toast

Could you confirm the humorous intent of that remark, please? Otherwise other readers may believe that you were really suggesting that Johnslat and I were flirting with each other. They have been known to take things a little too literally Very Happy

Can't help you with wife-beating devil, I'm afraid to say.

S
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Devil's beating his wife' is said by some old-timey residents of Appalachia when (I believe) there is thunder in the absence of heavy stormclouds.

Ah don' bleeve it'd be considered modern language. It's toothless grannies and pappies who might say such, so far as I know.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunshowers, I thought, too?
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Gerund



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

22 Maps That Show How Americans Speak English Totally Differently From Each Other

The title is ridiculous. If Americans spoke "totally differently" from each other, wouldn't it be totally impossible for them to communicate?
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha! Is that a set up for a killer punch-line? Very Happy

Now, now. Naughty.
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