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Traveller84
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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I work at a private university in Bogota. I earn around 4.3 - 4.7 per month depending on the month, and I'm contracted by semester.
I have friends who work at the Externado and I know they're on mas o menos 4 point something (4.2/4.3?) on a full-time contract. Obviously less for part-time and casual staff. The main problem is finding the right contact and making sure your CV lands on the right desk and the right time.
Try British Council as well. They are going to open an office/teaching in Medellin. Also with your qualifications you'd be looking at 4.5 - 5.5 a month. |
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spanglish
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 742 Location: working on that
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Traveller84 wrote: |
I work at a private university in Bogota. I earn around 4.3 - 4.7 per month depending on the month, and I'm contracted by semester.
I have friends who work at the Externado and I know they're on mas o menos 4 point something (4.2/4.3?) on a full-time contract. Obviously less for part-time and casual staff. The main problem is finding the right contact and making sure your CV lands on the right desk and the right time.
Try British Council as well. They are going to open an office/teaching in Medellin. Also with your qualifications you'd be looking at 4.5 - 5.5 a month. |
Externado pays 3.8-4.3 for full time. Andes pays 3.5 for full time (but less hours) and has just started requiring an M.A. in TESOL.
Your numbers sound like Sabana. I've heard the work load there is heavier than Andes and Externado whose schedules allow for extra time for privates or a second job. |
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kona
Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Posts: 188 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Traveller84 wrote: |
I work at a private university in Bogota. I earn around 4.3 - 4.7 per month depending on the month, and I'm contracted by semester.
I have friends who work at the Externado and I know they're on mas o menos 4 point something (4.2/4.3?) on a full-time contract. Obviously less for part-time and casual staff. The main problem is finding the right contact and making sure your CV lands on the right desk and the right time.
Try British Council as well. They are going to open an office/teaching in Medellin. Also with your qualifications you'd be looking at 4.5 - 5.5 a month. |
That sounds like a great salary. How long did it take you to work your way into one of the better universities? Did you have connections to make sure your CV got on the right desk?
Spanglish, I saw on another post that you mentioned salaries had gone down at one university (probably los andes); is this the case all over colombia right now? |
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spanglish
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 742 Location: working on that
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:25 am Post subject: |
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spanglish
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:27 am Post subject: |
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A lot of second tier universities seem to be opening up for foreigners and offering better pay and benefits while pay and benefits at the elite universities has either been cut significantly or remained stagnant relative to cost of living (and they are beginning to place greater demands on teachers).
In my opinion the British Council is still the best gig in town, no comparison. Even there though, I've heard complaints about budget cuts. And, according to their last vacancy opening, they are now only hiring those with a UK passport.
4.3-4.7 is a good salary, fantastic in fact if you only have a CELTA, but I'd be curious to hear what kind of work load that entails.
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kona
Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Posts: 188 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Well, its good to hear Sabana still pays pretty well; I really like their campus location out in Chui, seems like a really nice area of bogota (this is just what I've seen from pictures; haven't been there yet). |
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travelNick
Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Posts: 56 Location: Bogota, Colombia
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Spanglish is right with regards to second-tier universities opening up a bit and really going for foreign teachers. One reason for this is that many so-called garage universities are wanting to get accredited and improve what they're offering (their words). One part of that accreditation process is an academic staff consisting of foreigners. Most will be aiming at 40% foreign university-wide.
Working at a university (second tier) and them sponsoring your visa should entail around 16-24 hours of classes at 40.000COP minimum per hour. This is part time and you can work additional classes as you please wherever you wish. In many cases, part time university work will get you around 500.000COP / month more than full time. But of course full time pays 12 months of the year. Full time you're going to need at least Master's or possibly get away with a Postgraduate Diploma, both in TESOL or Applied Linguistics. |
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JacobTM
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 73 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:11 am Post subject: |
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I have friends who got jobs at various Universities in Bogota, such as Universidad Andino, with a BA in whatever, a CELTA, and some experience in Colombia at highschools and institutes.
So you can do this, but being on the ground seems to be key, and basically you need to just find someplace that has an opening at the right time.
Americans get 6 month tourist visas when they arrive, so if you have the means to support yourself, or the inclination to get a temporary job at an agency, you should be able to get a University job with just a little bit of hustling in any major city.
The only people I knew teaching in Universities who had it pre-arranged were through programs such as Fullbright or the like. I never heard of anyone arriving in Colombia with a University position independently procured. |
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torentosan
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:40 am Post subject: Teaching Cert or MA? |
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So what is the prevailing wisdom...Get a MA in TESOL or get a teaching license? The goal of course being a top paying position. |
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kona
Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Posts: 188 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:43 am Post subject: Re: Teaching Cert or MA? |
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torentosan wrote: |
So what is the prevailing wisdom...Get a MA in TESOL or get a teaching license? The goal of course being a top paying position. |
Boiling it all down to dollars and cents, you'll find that International Schools will pay the most amount of money and have the most amount of benefits no matter what country you work in. Most legit, IB certified schools ask for a teaching license and two years experience post license.
There is a lot of information on this forum that discusses this. It also depends on what you really want to do, too. |
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The Internationalist
Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 110
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: |
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International Schools pay the most, but its also alot more work.
University jobs are really nice in terms of hours and work load.
Uni gig making 4mil is not bad at all if you don't have many bills and obligations.
What I would do is get a teaching license first and spend some time making money and building contacts in the academia then get an MA TESOL and weigh your odds. |
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