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saltyham
Joined: 30 Aug 2011 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject: Can anyone tell me about ELES Centers, Muscat |
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Hi all,
I'm wondering if anyone has any information on how ELES Center is in Oman. I see a lot of information about ELS from a search, but it's quite old. Does anyone know how things are going now and what to expect?
I've done enough years in ESL to know that some of teaching abroad is about perspective, and you must take the good with the bad and accept that things can be unorganized or last minute, so I am quite flexible. What I do want to know about is payment. Are employees getting paid? Are they being treated well? Are their contracts being honored?
Thanks! |
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Sleepwalker
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 454 Location: Reading the screen
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Could you give us a city? |
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CANDLES
Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 605 Location: Wandering aimlessly.....
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Which company are you referring to? ELS in Muscat who have colleges in Muscat, Baraka and used to be in Buraimi (now defunct), or someone else? |
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omanoman
Joined: 11 Jun 2014 Posts: 140
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:45 am Post subject: |
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ELES is a language center based in Muscat with branches in Mawaleh (muscat) Sohar and Salalah I believe. I know some people who have worked for them part-time and no issues, adult students, general English curriculum.
I also know that they had the contracts for opening universities in Sharqiyah and Buraimi and had many issues there, but from my sources, the issues were almost all from the university side regarding payments, the program changes etc.
From my own experience with Ministry and university administrators, VIP's and so on, I will give them the benefit of the doubt that they managed to operate the foundation programs at all despite dealing with the avarice and incompetence that is often in play with these higher ed types.
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madrileno
Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 270 Location: Salalah, Oman
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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If you've the necessary credentials demanded by the Ministry (minimum related BA; MA in TEFL or Education preferred) don't even consider ELS/ELES.
There are ministry jobs constantly being advertised by the recruiting agencies, especially in the interior. Pay is always on time (not the case with ELS/ELES), and contracts are more or less respected by employers, (and not considered a mere suggestion like by the shifty company being discussed).
Stay far away, even if you're desperate. Look to Asia instead if you don't meet the necessary requirements. If that's the case, get a related MA and make the move to the Gulf, later. |
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omanoman
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:09 am Post subject: |
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I am going to disagree with that categorization. I have spent my time back in the day with language centers here and there and would compare what I have seen and heard with ELES quite favorably. I don't think they are unscrupulous.
Anyway, these forums are open to anyone with a grudge, legitimate or not and as my brief history here shows, I like to defend the employer side quite often. In fact, as you mentioned Ministry jobs, well, you might refer back to Muscat Gary's assertion that they didn't pay him and many others for 5 months!
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balqis
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Simply unbearable.
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CANDLES
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Well -omanoman-, I don't think you had the pleasure of working for a dodgy director with a 'degree and Dr' status in Religion, running an ELS Language School! otherwise you wouldn't be siding. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:25 am Post subject: |
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... that is different from some of these dodgy recruiter employers how? And, some of them are "running" supposed "university" foundations programs.
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omanoman
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:00 am Post subject: |
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I think you are referring to the very dodgy director of the program which was in Buraimi. And I agree with you entirely but that was a stand alone contract, long over now and has nothing to do with ELES now. Even then, it was just a contracted out foundation program run separately from the language school and, yeah, that guy was a real jerk apparently. |
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madrileno
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:05 am Post subject: |
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balqis wrote: |
Simply unbearable. |
My thoughts exactly. |
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MuscatGary
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:33 am Post subject: |
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The same thing is happening this year but isn't affecting as many people as the Ministry seems to have handed over virtually all recruitment to Hawthorn. |
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Sleepwalker
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:19 am Post subject: |
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An aside - what is happening with CfBT now? |
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MuscatGary
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Sleepwalker wrote: |
An aside - what is happening with CfBT now? |
They're not advertising any jobs at all in Oman right now. |
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pret a porter
Joined: 11 Mar 2012 Posts: 19 Location: Somewhere on the globe, in front of a computer screen
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:48 am Post subject: Re: Can anyone tell me about ELES Centers, Muscat |
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saltyham wrote: |
I'm wondering if anyone has any information on how ELES Center is in Oman. I see a lot of information about ELS from a search, but it's quite old. Does anyone know how things are going now and what to expect? |
I've sill a contact there who's leaving ELES/ITES the end of this year. If you value your sanity and overall well-being, stay far, far away from that company.
They make Korean hagwons look like paradise.
Oh, and they still chronically pay late just as they were during the times of the older threads on here. |
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