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christmas
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:13 am Post subject: Work permit |
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I just got my residency approved to start my job in august.
Can someone tell me what the procedure is for the work permit?
I'm thinking of going to the Omani consulate and getting my degree rubber stamped to avoid hassle when in Muscat. |
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omanoman
Joined: 11 Jun 2014 Posts: 140
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:09 am Post subject: |
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It's always a good idea to have stamps on everything before coming but if the sponsor hasn't asked for them yet, then what is the nature of your approved "residency" ?
It is not that common to actually have a visa approval so early in advance, I would even use the phrase "unheard of" . Can you explain more what has been communicated to you?
The residency card process is Docs + pictures submitted and approval - medical check done - visit to the police immigration office for the card making. Each step can take it's own time and the quickest turnaround would be a week to 10 days I would think. |
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madrileno
Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 270 Location: Salalah, Oman
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:17 am Post subject: |
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I agree with omanoman. I've never heard of someone getting their residency approved before entering the country.
Almost everyone comes in on a tourist visa which is later changed to a residency visa after all the documents are approved and stamped by the appropriate ministries here in Oman. |
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MuscatGary
Joined: 03 Jun 2013 Posts: 1364 Location: Flying around the ME...
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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madrileno wrote: |
I agree with omanoman. I've never heard of someone getting their residency approved before entering the country.
Almost everyone comes in on a tourist visa which is later changed to a residency visa after all the documents are approved and stamped by the appropriate ministries here in Oman. |
Not since 2013, the work visa is now processed before you arrive and a copy is sent to you to show at the airport. The PRO then takes you to the visa desk where they put the visa stamp into your passport. The residents card is processed later after documents have been checked and the medical is approved. If you have an employer with waste this can happen in one day. |
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omanoman
Joined: 11 Jun 2014 Posts: 140
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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It's always been possible to be given the visa before you arrive but I think quite rare in practice. The reason? some medical clearances for one but mainly, the risk of the new hire changing their mind before they come, as is often the case when employees shop around. If the visa is given and then never actualized ( is that even a word?) then the sponsor has a difficult time replacing the visa , similar to an absconding employee. At least 3 months I think for waiting to clear the visa left hanging.
Of course, wasta changes everything but for those without it, there is a risk not worth taking. |
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Whatever will be
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 303
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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MuscatGary
Joined: 03 Jun 2013 Posts: 1364 Location: Flying around the ME...
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 12:55 am Post subject: |
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omanoman wrote: |
It's always been possible to be given the visa before you arrive but I think quite rare in practice. |
Now it's compulsory, if you did come in on a tourist visa you would have to leave the country and come back in again on the work visa but all the big recruiters are issuing the visa by email in advance of the teacher arriving. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 4:34 am Post subject: |
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I think that there might be a confusion of terminology. While for a few years (late 90's/early 00s), one could use a tourist visa and the employer could easily convert it, since the 80's most came in on a short term "work" visa... which involved visiting the window in the airport, and then the employer arranged the medical tests, finger prints, and the passport was taken in to get the labor card and work/residency visa stamped in the passport which was good for a certain number of years - my first one was for 4 years as I recall.
My second job I came in on a tourist visa as it was already in my passport and it saved my employer the time and effort to get the normal entry visa for employment. They appreciated saving the money. But as has been mentioned, they stopped allowing that system - probably because it cut government income.
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1st Sgt Welsh
Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 946 Location: Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Whatever will be wrote: |
The "unfit for work" risk is mitigated by a medical examination from the teacher's home country, which has to be supplied prior to the recruiter issuing the flight ticket. The medical is then repeated in Oman.
Once the employee is in the country, the recruiters give only some of what they've promised. To make sure the cheated teacher doesn't run off, the recruiter keeps the passport "to organize the resident card", which takes like...forever.
Since the teachers doesn't have a bank account, the salary can't be transferred or will be transferred later - whatever the excuse - leaving the teacher without income for a couple of months. By then, savings are used up.
The recruiter got all the bases covered, the teacher is trapped. |
Just goes to show how much people's experiences may vary.
I did have to do a medical before the air tickets and copy of the work visa were issued. Clearly, they don't want people to arrive here, on their dime, and then later find out that they are ineligible to work in Oman due to health reasons. That's fair enough and if I was a recruiter, I'd do the same thing.
As none of us could open a bank account until we got a residency card, an agency representative came to our house, on the day that our salaries were due, and paid out our first month's allowances and salary in cash. If anyone was broke then they could call the agency and get an advance on their salary. They'd receive the advance within three days. When it was time to organize the residency cards, it took a morning. A representative of the agency picked us up from our homes, took us to the government buildings that we needed to go to, helped us fill out the forms and by noon we had the residency cards in our hands. For those of us who had classes that morning, the College found other teachers to cover them. No dramas at all . |
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omanoman
Joined: 11 Jun 2014 Posts: 140
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 11:56 am Post subject: |
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True, everyone has different experiences and also perceptions about those experiences. In Whatever's post, all of those complaints or suspicions can be explained by the bureaucracy here and time for processing, rather than as a Machiavellian plot to undermine teacher's rights.
But hey, it's not paranoia if it's true, right ? |
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Whatever will be
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 303
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Fortunately from the majority of posts here, whatever's experience seems to be mostly his/her own and not shared by the majority of the teachers.
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Whatever will be
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:07 am Post subject: |
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In the last year there have been 150 threads posted on the Oman board... and the majority of the posts on these threads were NOT done by the regulars.
And still your experience seems to be mainly yours... at your employer which you won't identify. Instead of helping, you are merely blackening every employer's reputation based on your own, seemingly rather unique, experience.
Things have certainly gone downhill in Oman since they went to the recruiter system. None of the regulars have sold it as a "wonderful TEFL experience", but as an entry job to future jobs in the Gulf market where there is money to be made... it has just never been in Oman.
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Tazz
Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Posts: 512 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:46 am Post subject: |
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I can't see the harm in outing a recruiter-if they are engaged in such vile tactics as keeping passports-which is, of course, totally illegal. Hardly puts ones anonymity at risk....... |
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