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Charlie123
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Given that the military college pays 1900 I would guess that SQU would be around that benchmark. .[/quote]
I get the impression that a single person can find a nice apartment close to campus in Salalah for a couple hundred OR. Is the same true from SQU? I am wondering if the lower cost of living in Salalah may be a factor in local salaries. |
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balqis
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:36 am Post subject: |
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One woman once told me that MoHE salaries are the same for CAS and SQU faculty as both work under the same auspices.
She worked in one of the MoHE colleges but had a friend at SQU, who was her source. To me it is logical what she told me.
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veiledsentiments
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Oh Balquis... you've been around long enough to know that logic has nothing to do with it.
Actually it is consistent pretty much around the Gulf that salaries even under the same Ministry are not the same. SQU has always been paid at the higher end of the scale and all other colleges around Oman got often significantly less. Your friend may have been comparing teachers with widely varying credentials.
This is true even in the Emirates where HCT, UAEU, and ZU are all under the same Ministry with different salary scales. Not hugely different, but...
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balqis
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps.
Nevertheless, as a government institution, it remains estranged, as government institutions, by definition, and up to the President/Prime Minister's salary, are transparent and for the public access and scrutiny. The SQU pay scale should not be shrouded and clandestine. What is public, but stays shrouded and clandestine, intimates a level of corruption involved.
Many academic institutions, after all, publish their pay-scales in the ads, which are out when they recruit.
Yet nobody from SQU had the courage to disclose how much the TEFL VIPs of Oman make.
Oh, what an admirably unanimous group of likely-minded elegant and honourable individuals indeed!
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madrileno
Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 270 Location: Salalah, Oman
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Charlie123 wrote: |
I get the impression that a single person can find a nice apartment close to campus in Salalah for a couple hundred OR. Is the same true from SQU? I am wondering if the lower cost of living in Salalah may be a factor in local salaries. |
The price you quoted only applies to apartments rented for 10 months in Salalah.
It's been covered in this forum that apartments in Salalah can be rented for 10 or 12 month periods. The 10 month is significantly cheaper, but you're kicked out of the apartment in July and August for the Khareef season, and need to remove all your belongings.
SQU provides accommodation on campus, but as others have said, it's first come-first served. Accommodation off campus can be found, but since it's the capital, you'll be paying the highest rent prices in the country. |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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balqis wrote: |
]The SQU pay scale should not be shrouded and clandestine. What is public, but stays shrouded and clandestine, intimates a level of corruption involved.
Many academic institutions, after all, publish their pay-scales in the ads, which are out when they recruit.
Yet nobody from SQU had the courage to disclose how much the TEFL VIPs of Oman make. |
There's no law mandating that salaries be posted, nor are others obligated to disclose what they earn. And frankly, if you suspect corruption solely based on the lack of published salaries, then look elsewhere for a job. Problem solved.
But why is it that some job seekers are averse to applying to posted jobs openings they're interested in and qualified for to see what they'd be offered? It would take less than an hour to customize a cover letter and CV and get everything emailed. Compare that to the amount of time spent returning to a forum day after day to complain about the lack of posted salary info. This is a no brainer.
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MuscatGary
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 12:58 am Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
SQU has always been paid at the higher end of the scale and all other colleges around Oman got often significantly less. VS |
But no longer in the case of the Omani teachers. A year ago the salaries at CAS were rounded up to match the SQU salary scale but not for ex-pats which caused a lot of resentment as it meant that an ex-pat teacher who turned up on time and did the job properly got paid less than an Omani who may or may not turn up but never on time and who would often pay lip service to the job. |
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veiledsentiments
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 1:37 am Post subject: |
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MuscatGary wrote: |
veiledsentiments wrote: |
SQU has always been paid at the higher end of the scale and all other colleges around Oman got often significantly less. VS |
But no longer in the case of the Omani teachers. A year ago the salaries at CAS were rounded up to match the SQU salary scale but not for ex-pats which caused a lot of resentment as it meant that an ex-pat teacher who turned up on time and did the job properly got paid less than an Omani who may or may not turn up but never on time and who would often pay lip service to the job. |
In all of the Gulf what the locals get is always better than our salary/benefits. That is a given so it is a waste of time to even ponder or bitch about... look at what you are getting offered, hopefully in comparison to expats with equivalent credentials.
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SQU provides accommodation on campus, but as others have said, it's first come-first served. Accommodation off campus can be found, but since it's the capital, you'll be paying the highest rent prices in the country. |
TEFL teachers don't get on campus accommodations any longer and haven't for many years. There are a few that have been there since the late 80s/early 90s who are still in their original assigned on campus houses. Only professors have any chance at an on campus house now.
All new LC teachers end up in the inventory lottery of flats rented by the university around the nearby areas. Some of them are good, some are OK, but as the years go by, the bad ones are increasing. As numbers of teachers has risen, the housing departments ability to handle the situation has gone downhill. Back when it was mostly Indians, it ran like clockwork. But Omanization tends to mean that every time they get someone who is efficient and hardworking, s/he gets promoted... and that is much of the problem in most departments, not to mention all around the country and the Gulf. And then it becomes near impossible to get rid of the lazy and inefficient...
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