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scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

"Mushrikin" do NOT include the "People of the Book" i.e Jews and Christians.

There is some agreement in the Peninsula - at least in KSA - amongst the more radical Islamists that non-Muslims should not be allowed in the peninsula. Imagine the noise if it were even mooted that musilims be kept out of Western countries !!!

johnslat · Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:25 pm Post subject: It has been mooted

Dear scot47,
" Imagine the noise if it were even mooted that muslims be kept out of Western countries !!! "
Well actually, such an extremely xenophobic, anti-Islamic position has been mooted ( I've always wanted to use that verb in the present perfect passive ) by such rabid fanatics as, for example, Ann Coulter, the " right-wing " columnist and others of her ilk ( there's another nice word ). Unfortunately, the West has its share of such bozos, as well.
Regards,
John

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I was not myself advocating this policy. I was merely pointing out that many people woould be outraged if Western governements tried to exclude people on the basis of religion.

Human folly being what it is, we should expect the crazier elements of British and American society to come out with demands for the expulsion of the "Moors".

johnslat · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:09 pm Post subject: Moor is Less

Dear scot47,
I didn't mean to suggest or imply that YOU were advocating such a policy, only that it has been advocated by some in the public eye in the West.
As for any organized demand to expel the Moors, well, I have a great slogan for such a group:
Moor is Less.
Regards,
John

nimra_ghalat · Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 25

In the same hadith the definition of the "peninsula" is fairly restricted as well, not including (apparently) the whole of the peninsula.
Note also that there was a significant Jewish community in Yemen/southern Arabia until just recently. Which is ironic because Saudi Arabia lets in people of practically any faith except Judaism, be they mono- or polytheists. (Unless you're secretary of state or something.)

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

In fact the practice in KSA is much easier than it used to be. Recently there was a highly publicised visit by Stanley Cohen, a NY lawyer, who participated in public lectures on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute.

In a departutre from earlier policies Hindus, Sikhs and Budhists are also permitted entrance.

The problem faced by the governement is that there is a minority of opinion here that is very fundamentalist. The "mutawa" element has to be kept quiet by enforcing some regulations that do not please everyone.