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Guy Courchesne
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
Quebec used to have a Parti Quebecois government and they tried (and failed) to leave Canada not once but twice.
failed both times.
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Technically, they didn't try to leave Canada. They first ran a referendum in 1980 with this question:
The Government of Quebec has made public its proposal to negotiate a new agreement with the rest of Canada, based on the equality of nations; this agreement would enable Quebec to acquire the exclusive power to make its laws, levy its taxes and establish relations abroad - in other words, sovereignty - and at the same time to maintain with Canada an economic association including a common currency; any change in political status resulting from these negotiations will only be implemented with popular approval through another referendum; on these terms, do you give the Government of Quebec the mandate to negotiate the proposed agreement between Quebec and Canada?
and in 1995 with this question, a little closer to the idea of 'leaving':
Do you agree that Qu�bec should become sovereign after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership within the scope of the bill respecting the future of Qu�bec and of the agreement signed on June 12, 1995?.
and yes both failed. Maybe they failed because neither question asked, outright:
Do you want to leave Canada? |
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BadBeagleBad
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Will Scots still be British if they leave the union? |
I don�t know any Scots that consider themselves British now........ |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| That's interesting. I don't know any that don't. Maybe it is a generational difference? |
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scot47
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Depends. If your pals are all in the True Blue Loyalist Defenders Flute band, maybe it is different.
My song has always been
"Ah but Scotland hasna got a King
and She hasna got a Queen.
Hoo can thir be a Second Liz when the first yin's never been !" |
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scot47
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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One thing is pretty sure - not many people outside Scotland are interested.
That is good. I would be nervous if they were. We can do without foreign intervention, thank you ! |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| No danger of NATO planes bombing the imperialist piggies out of Scotland then? |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| "Our own right hands the chains must sever !" |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, so true!
Brings a tear to my eye every time, comrade.... |
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scot47
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| Looking at the Great Edinburgh Tram Fiasco, I have a certain amount of pessimism about the future of an independent Scotland. |
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sheikh radlinrol
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| Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| BadBeagleBad wrote: |
| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Will Scots still be British if they leave the union? |
I don�t know any Scots that consider themselves British now........ |
Are you joking or maybe you are mentally deranged? I, for one, am Scottish and British and proud of being both. I happen to know umpteen people who would agree with me. Having said that, I�m sure the English would be glad to see tha back of us. 
How much did the Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh finally cost? |
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Captain_Fil
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Location: California - the land of fruits and nuts
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| The Near Abroad didn't leave anything... |
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scot47
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Scotland as the new Kazakhstan ? |
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TheHanMan
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
One thing is pretty sure - not many people outside Scotland are interested.
That is good. I would be nervous if they were. We can do without foreign intervention, thank you ! |
I'd love for you all to do without the foreign intervention that comes in the form of money from the English taxpayer.
Bye bye Scotland? God speed the day, I say. |
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johnslat
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Dear TheHanMan
Hasn't North Sea oil been good to perfidious Albion? 
Regards,
John |
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