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steki47
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| The only problem with being a Conservative (I am) is that most liberals automatically assume you are a Christian. I suppose my morals are very much in line with what Christians believe, but without the need for churches, indoctrination and general brainwashing, or any hint of a religion. In other words, for me, good moral thinking is commonsense, which for some reason has to drilled into some people's heads week after week. |
Same here. I fancy myself to be a secular Conservative. Those moral positions have created highly successful societies and I do not think changing/tampering with them is such a great idea.
This toilet issue is really petty and divisive. Over what? 0.1% of the population?
More to the point, damning North Carolina ( and trying to punish them economically) is really loopy to me. And, in the case of Target, may backfire on them.
I am not sure it is common sense that has faded (well, partially) but that some segment of the New Left has taken a revolutionary stance and is always pushing forward. Gay marriage was an easy win and now they are on to transgender issues. Never mind the consequences, full speed ahead. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| Mischief-making by a gang of pinkos. I write this as one who is politically bright red. (Well more of a watermelon really - green outside and red inside.) |
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adventious
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| Mischief-making by a gang of pinkos. |
Oh, you! (two!)
Were NCTBA around, I'd expect their finest cookin' pan 'bout now...
Zealots/outsiders/other stirring trouble for "us" is a well worn trope of tone-deaf and regressive authority and maintaining contrary opinion precludes "common" sense is a prosaic advertiser's appeal.
Individuals grappling with their identity in a post-Barbie/Ken world?
Who'd uh thunk it? |
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MI6agent
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Mischief-making by a gang of pinkos. I write this as one who is politically bright red. (Well more of a watermelon really - green outside and red inside.) |
scotty, what do you think about The British Toilet Association, do you think they are doing good job for the community?
I think they need the services of people who are green from outside and red from inside!  |
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Knedliki
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Reminds me of the transgendered person who was on my degree course. He was preop and would sit in class pulling his chest hairs out with a pair of tweezers. He insisted on using the female toilets, and the communal female showers when we went on a field trip. Much to the two teenage girls consternation!
He left the course because he couldn't hack it and managed to get a job as a driving instructor for a female only school. He got the sack from there when a Muslim man complained that he was technically still a man and he didn't want him in the car with his wife.
Not sure which toilets he/she uses these days. |
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johnslat
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Dear Knedliki,
My goodness - an unpleasant and boorish transgendered person. Well, that settles it - I mean, who wants people like that (and, of course, they all are) sharing their public toilet?
Really - ugh.
Thanks for clearing this matter up.
Know any boorish, unpleasant ESL/EFL teachers (um, besides me, that is). 
Regards,
John |
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| MI6agent wrote: |
| scot47 wrote: |
| Mischief-making by a gang of pinkos. I write this as one who is politically bright red. (Well more of a watermelon really - green outside and red inside.) |
scotty, what do you think about The British Toilet Association, do you think they are doing good job for the community?
I think they need the services of people who are green from outside and red from inside! |
What a splendidly British URL they have: www.britloos.co.uk |
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steki47
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| Knedliki wrote: |
| He got the sack from there when a Muslim man complained that he was technically still a man and he didn't want him in the car with his wife. |
This is funny! |
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sheikh radlinrol
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| Phil_K wrote: |
| MI6agent wrote: |
| scot47 wrote: |
| Mischief-making by a gang of pinkos. I write this as one who is politically bright red. (Well more of a watermelon really - green outside and red inside.) |
scotty, what do you think about The British Toilet Association, do you think they are doing good job for the community?
I think they need the services of people who are green from outside and red from inside! |
What a splendidly British URL they have: www.britloos.co.uk |
Phil, do you teach your students the word ¨loo¨? I don´t. It´s too twee for my liking. My students get ¨toilet¨ and if they want something else, they can have ¨bog¨. |
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Phil_K
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| Well, I don't teach anyone anything anymore, but I suppose alternative words in other countries may have come up on occasions. Of course, students love British English, and I'm happy to oblige! |
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johnslat
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The etymology's uncertain:
"loo (n.1) Look up loo at Dictionary.com
"lavatory," 1940, but perhaps 1922, probably from French lieux d'aisances, "lavatory," literally "place of ease," picked up by British servicemen in France during World War I. Or possibly a pun on Waterloo, based on water closet."
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"There are several theories about the origin of this informal British term for a toilet. The first, and most popular, is that it derived from the cry of 'gardyloo' (from the French regardez l'eau 'watch out for the water'), which was shouted by medieval servants as they emptied chamber pots out of upstairs windows into the street. This is historically problematic, since by the time the term 'loo' is recorded, the expression 'gardyloo' was long obsolete.
A second theory is that the word derives from a polite use of the French term le lieu ('the place') as a euphemism. Unfortunately, documentary evidence to support this idea is lacking.
A third theory refers to the trade name 'Waterloo', which appeared prominently displayed on the iron cisterns in many British outhouses during the early 20th century. This is more credible in terms of dates, but corroborating evidence is still frustratingly hard to find. Various other colourful theories also circulate, involving references to doors numbered '00' or people called 'Looe'.
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MI6agent
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| sheikh radlinrol wrote: |
| Phil, do you teach your students the word ¨loo¨? I don´t. It´s too twee for my liking. My students get ¨toilet¨ and if they want something else, they can have ¨bog¨. |
And in the Magic Kingdom, what was the word for 'toilet', sheikh? |
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sheikh radlinrol
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| sheikh radlinrol wrote: |
| Phil, do you teach your students the word ¨loo¨? I don´t. It´s too twee for my liking. My students get ¨toilet¨ and if they want something else, they can have ¨bog¨. |
And in the Magic Kingdom, what was the word for 'toilet', sheikh? |
I never learned the word for toilet in Arabic but in the place I worked we had no gender/toilet problems as ladies never entered the place and íf there were any transgenders they kept quiet about it. Wisely IMO  |
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johnslat
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Dear sheikh,
As I recall, the Arabic word is pronounced "hammam," referring to the bathroom itself.
Regards,
John |
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sheikh radlinrol
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| johnslat wrote: |
Dear sheikh,
As I recall, the Arabic word is pronounced "hammam," referring to the bathroom itself.
Regards,
John |
Thank you Mr. S. I´ll remember it the next time my bladder is bursting in Arabia. BTW I think that such vocabulary is of interest to our students. In Glasgow we favour ¨lavvie¨ or, according to my Glaswegian cousin, the ¨cludge¨ What do they say in Palm Beach? |
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