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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, thanks.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use the same number of lines for each job no matter what times you actually spent in the positions.
Helps overcome the 'mixed bag' long term-short term nature of work history.
Doogsville's comment is right.
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Does anyone know of a website that has a good template for an ESL resume? Do I need a cover letter?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the school will translate/rewrite/massage your resume when they apply
for the work permit. any mentoring/tutoring experience you have can
be polished. an assistant manager at kfc trains new employees in the
fine art of grease straining.....that can count as teachin' experience.

unless you're applying at top-tier unis or international schools, don't
worry too much about your cover letter. a simple email stating your
interest should be sufficient. the fao (or whomever) reading your
letter may have very limited english. attach scans of all the appropriate
documents: resume, diploma/degree certificate, tefl certificate, photo
page of passport, digital photo.
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone recommend what type of job they feel is best for a beginner, whether it be language mill, public school, or university? I would really like to have weekends off, I'm not sure how much that narrows down the search. But I've found I'm usually happier when I have a nice two day break at the end of every week.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcloo
I think a state/provincial vocational college would give you the best intro to the China ESL game.
You are likely to encounter freshmen who need conversational English to get a job.
I've found them pretty motivated for that reason.
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
mcloo
I think a state/provincial vocational college would give you the best intro to the China ESL game.
You are likely to encounter freshmen who need conversational English to get a job.
I've found them pretty motivated for that reason.


Thanks, are these jobs usually listed on the usual websites?
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doogsville



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Language mills should still give you two days off, just not Saturday and Sunday, so you're weekend is different from everyone else's weekend. That's not always a bad thing here. Weekends can be busy times for shopping, eating out etc. I'd been here a few months before I had weekend off, and it was a bit of a shock. During the week the hordes are busy in factories and offices working. Then they all decide to go shopping at the same time at the weekend. Also, your fellow FT's will likely have the same schedule, so going out on a Monday or Tuesday night becomes the norm.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcloo
Yes they are, but if you are looking for a start at the beginning of Sept, I suggest we are early enough in the cycle for you to be proactive.
Most schools won't start advertising until say late March.
I suggest you simply Google 'Vocational Colleges China'.
*Once you have a few names, find the school's website and look for International/FAO or Recruitment or similar link.
Another route is to search your preferred cities on Wikipedia and on the side bar you will find an Education link.
The listings under Education are not usually hyperlinks but just names and general description.
Go back to Google and repeat from *.
Look for tourism and hospitality-related colleges as these prepare students for jobs that require English.
PM me if you need further help.
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
mcloo
Yes they are, but if you are looking for a start at the beginning of Sept, I suggest we are early enough in the cycle for you to be proactive.
Most schools won't start advertising until say late March.
I suggest you simply Google 'Vocational Colleges China'.
*Once you have a few names, find the school's website and look for International/FAO or Recruitment or similar link.
Another route is to search your preferred cities on Wikipedia and on the side bar you will find an Education link.
The listings under Education are not usually hyperlinks but just names and general description.
Go back to Google and repeat from *.
Look for tourism and hospitality-related colleges as these prepare students for jobs that require English.
PM me if you need further help.
Best
NS


Thanks.
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

doogsville wrote:
Language mills should still give you two days off, just not Saturday and Sunday, so you're weekend is different from everyone else's weekend. That's not always a bad thing here. Weekends can be busy times for shopping, eating out etc. I'd been here a few months before I had weekend off, and it was a bit of a shock. During the week the hordes are busy in factories and offices working. Then they all decide to go shopping at the same time at the weekend. Also, your fellow FT's will likely have the same schedule, so going out on a Monday or Tuesday night becomes the norm.


Are the days off usually two days in a row?
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Denim-Maniac



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doogsville wrote:
Language mills should still give you two days off, just not Saturday and Sunday, so you're weekend is different from everyone else's weekend. That's not always a bad thing here. Weekends can be busy times for shopping, eating out etc. I'd been here a few months before I had weekend off, and it was a bit of a shock. During the week the hordes are busy in factories and offices working. Then they all decide to go shopping at the same time at the weekend. Also, your fellow FT's will likely have the same schedule, so going out on a Monday or Tuesday night becomes the norm.


Not all training centre jobs involve weekend work. Not all training centre work involves evenings either. And they dont all include office hours Exclamation
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get a job that starts in September can you come over earlier than that, like in the late spring or summer?
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcloo7 wrote:
If you get a job that starts in September can you come over earlier than that, like in the late spring or summer?

Other wiser heads can comment but strategically you should get you main job in place first and then negotiate about early arrival.
There may be summer camp jobs that morph into 2-semester engagements but watch the visa angle.
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