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djg2323



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Need a change from SK Reply with quote

Hello, I am currently teaching in SK and have been for the last three years. I have seen the country and I have become extremely bored here. I have also noticed that the prices of most goods are rising, while salaries are stagnant. My question is for people who have worked in SK, but now work in China:

Which country do you like working in more? Why?
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Need a change from SK Reply with quote

djg2323 wrote:
Which country do you like working in more? Why?

There's a lot more to see and do in China.
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kev7161



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have also noticed that the prices of most goods are rising, while salaries are stagnant.


Which is true in China as well, and very likely most of the world.
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twilothunder



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kev7161 wrote:
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I have also noticed that the prices of most goods are rising, while salaries are stagnant.


Which is true in China as well, and very likely most of the world.


Echo this.
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darkcity



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worked in Seoul for 1.5 years. Worked in Shanghai for 1.5 years. Here's my two cents.

China is a giant zoo. It is absolute chaos here. I can't really reduce it to a short paragraph without it sounding like a bitch-fest against China. Actually, I'm really bored here. The culture isn't as exciting as Korea because they don't even know what their culture is. BUT...after a year of teaching, I got into a really sweet job at corporate. I create material that is being used worldwide. It is an extremely satisfying job. This is something that anyone in China with the right talent and ambition can do. There are so many job opportunities, it's ridiculous. I actually have a career path now. My friends in Korea have been there for 5 years or more and are still doing *beep*-all, even considering a marriage visa just to get out of the teaching thing.

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So I guess it depends what you want. If you're looking for something on your resume, China would be a good start, but you'll need to pay your dues first. Korea has the more exciting culture, but you seem to be bored. Or maybe you just need to take a break from it to appreciate it again.

In the end though, no one can tell you exactly what will happen or how you'll perceive the experience. I can just say that from my perspective, the ideal situation would be living in Japan with my current job and the Korean salary. It's not a perfect world though, so for now, I'll stick with the job and see where that takes me. But I am not staying here for the culture.
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chinadad



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also echo that Chinese culture is the pits -if anyone disagrees, please describe the kind of culture that you're enjoying
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twilothunder



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beijing has culture. You'd have to spend a year not venturing further than Sanlitun if you can't see that.

Temple of Heaven, Summer Palace, Great Wall, Shichahai, Forbidden City, the Hutongs (what's left of them), Dongyue Temple, Fragrant Hills - all worth seeing and all places I've been back to more than once.

798, and now of course things have moved on to Caochangdi.

Good local band scene - Carsick Cars, Hang on the Box, Pet Conspiracy.

All sorts of great stuff on regularly at the NCPA.

Is food not culture? Imperial Cuisine (I mean a PROPER Imperial Banquet) is probably the best food I've ever tasted (and I have been to Italy and Spain numerous times, also lived in London; admittedly only been to France once). It is also recognised by many WESTERN chefs as one of the most, if not THE most, difficult and intricate style of cooking to master.

I'm just scratching the surface here as well.

Shanghai IS kind of boring compared to Beijing IMO.
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wonderingjoesmith



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinadad wrote:
Also echo that Chinese culture is the pits -if anyone disagrees, please describe the kind of culture that you're enjoying
South American latinos or European Spanish are fun to be or work with. Not long ago, I worked in South America and I didn't see the inflation so much although that doesn't go for Spain.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dark city
You got into corporate after just one year!
Congratulations.
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Simon in Suzhou



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worked in Korea for 5 years, now in China for 4. I would NEVER go back to South Korea. Wish I made the switch 4 years earlier. China is infinitely more interesting, more friendly to foreigners, not even worth comparing in terms of culture (Chinese don't know their culture but Koreans do? Ummm what?). Just my opinion...everyone's got one. I know about a dozen teachers personally who have worked in both countries and to a person they are all happier here in China. But that's just among those I know. Maybe the ones with bad experiences are gone.

Prices have gone up here a lot in the 4 years I've been here, but still significantly cheaper than Korea. I make a less in China but save about the same. I say if you're ready for a change give China a shot. It's not like Korea is going anywhere if you don't like it.
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chinatimes



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I make a less in China but save about the same.


Now try transferring those funds as easily as you could in SK Wink

I think we ought to realize it's not about the money. You should find a specific reason that is important to you.
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Simon in Suzhou



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinatimes wrote:
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I make a less in China but save about the same.


Now try transferring those funds as easily as you could in SK Wink

I think we ought to realize it's not about the money. You should find a specific reason that is important to you.


Chinese GF goes into the bank, transfers as much money as I want in about 5 minutes. MUCH easier than SK! Haha

But you're right, money is not a good reason to come to China. There are more lucrative places to work...heck, if money is the primary concern, you're in the wrong occupation.
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chinatimes



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chinese GF goes into the bank, transfers as much money as I want in about 5 minutes. MUCH easier than SK! Haha


I didn't need a girlfriend in Korea and I could transfer twice as much because I was earning twice as much.

Ha ha ha
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinatimes wrote:
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Chinese GF goes into the bank, transfers as much money as I want in about 5 minutes. MUCH easier than SK! Haha


I didn't need a girlfriend in Korea and I could transfer twice as much because I was earning twice as much.

Ha ha ha


you mean you didn't have a girlfriend, therefore you were saving twice as much.

ha ha ha ha ha
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing
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