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curioustraveler



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:34 am    Post subject: New teaching restrictions in China Reply with quote

I'm about to graduate and was planning on teaching in China. I was just told the government is a lot stricter now about having 2 years of experience. I'm hoping to teach in Beijing or Shanghai. In short, here is my resume:

BA degree in Linguistics (TESOL concentration) from a USA University

TESOL certificate (USA)

AA degree (USA)

Native speaker of English born and raised in the USA

And and have about 2 years of in-class ESL with adults as an unpaid assistant. Please help!!!!
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keeperofpythons



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:30 am    Post subject: Re: New teaching restrictions in China Reply with quote

curioustraveler wrote:


And and have about 2 years of in-class ESL with adults as an unpaid assistant. Please help!!!!


Someone somewhere will hire you, that's for sure. Re: 2 years of experience, you can spin your unpaid assistantship as experience on your resume without lying. Good luck.
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zactherat



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beijing and Shanghai have been sticklers for the requirements for a while now - why not try for lovely Lanzhou or Linfen instead? You might find employers there slightly more lenient with regard to..

well..

everything.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Someone somewhere will hire you, that's for sure


Yeah.
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chinatimes



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zactherat wrote:
Beijing and Shanghai have been sticklers for the requirements for a while now - why not try for lovely Lanzhou or Linfen instead? You might find employers there slightly more lenient with regard to..

well..

everything.


What are you talking about? You can get a job in Beijing with just a 4 year degree at college. Beijing and Shanghai have NOT been sticklers.

This is 1 of thousands of ads:

http://jobs.echinacities.com/showjob-176924.html
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twilothunder



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Linfen would be a great place for a China firsttimer.
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="twilothunder"]Yeah, Linfen would be a great place for a China firsttimer.[/quot]

Is this sarcasm or are you in earnest? I'm only asking because I don't know anything about Linfen.
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When they say two years of experience do they specifically mean two years of teaching experience, or do they mean any work experience?
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twilothunder



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linfen is the most polluted city on earth by some measures.
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mnguy29



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two years of teaching experience means anything even remotely related to teaching. Why choose Beijing and Shanghai? I have not heard great things about either. There are many other nice cities that will be willing to hire you with your qualifications. Do a search, ask questions. You will have no problem.
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MisterButtkins



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why choose Beijing and Shanghai?


Some people only like big international cities.
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twilothunder



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beijing and Shanghai are probably sensible choices for China first-timers.

Minimise the culture shock and be able to build a strong network of decent foreign friends quite rapidly.

Move to the interior after you've done a year in one of those, if you want to.

Wise IMO.
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was under the impression that the big cities were stricterer
about the visa requirements, particularly age.


OP is soon to graduate, probably 22-ish, with little to no work
experience post graduation. would it then be easier to find work
in the hinterlands?
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i was under the impression that the big cities were stricterer
about the visa requirements, particularly age


I don't believe there is an age requirement for the Z visa (I'm assuming you mean an upper age limit); it's been my experience that some schools (EF springs to mind) will TELL you that there is an age limit to get a visa. They try to pass it off as "law", but ...... (I'm not sure what the minimum age to get the visa is, seems like I heard somewhere it was 18.)


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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe it's not the visa itself, but the work permit you need to apply
for the work visa. so you could get the visa at any age that would
be legally employable in china, but you would still need to meet the
requirements of 4-year degree followed by two years experience. then
add in non-enforcement, guangxi, and the shuiping of your fengshui.

china is confusing.
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