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The First Afghan War
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: The First Afghan War Reply with quote

Do you suppose that the Pentagon and their buddies knew abou this ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Return-King-Afghanistan-William-Dalrymple/dp/1408818302/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359227112&sr=1-1
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dalrymple - a cracking writer. His 'From the Holy Mountain' is a wonderful read. Thanks for bring this title to my attention, Scott.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pity it's too late for the Pentagon boys...
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Qaaolchoura



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, history teaches us that it is in fact possible to conquer Afghanistan. Now Genghis Khan and Tamerlane did it by building mounds of skulls, which isn't all that acceptable in this modern day and age. Alexander did it by full-scale nation-building and incorporating the country into his empire, and I don't think we have the time or patience for that. That leaves the Arabs. Looking at the Wikipedia article on the Islamic conquest of Afghanistan, it seems that the Arabs had the same problems we had, what with the Hindu/Buddhist inhabitants not all that fond of being forcibly converted to Islam. But they played the long game, and look what the wrought: the most staunchly orthodox Islamist country outside of Saudi Arabia.

Clearly History teaches us Baby Bush's problem with attempting to plant liberal democracy in foreign soil is that he focused on the wrong country (Iraq). Well, that and he backed Mr. Karzai after it became clear that the man was corrupt, incompetent, and only even plausibly the "good guy" when compared to the hand-chopping, woman-hating, Buddha-bombing Taliban.


~Q
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a shrub!!
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artemisia



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qaaolchoura wrote:
Clearly History teaches us Baby Bush's problem with attempting to plant liberal democracy in foreign soil is that he focused on the wrong country (Iraq).

I hope you haven’t forgotten all about the Axis. I haven’t:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/320224/
“You mess with Texas and it’s straight to the Axis of Evil. Got it?”

Didn’t Hussein mess with Bush’s daddy?
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexander the Great subdued the Afghans with as much genocide as the Khans later did.

What does a 'staunchly orthodox Islamic country' mean, anyone know?
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Cool Teacher



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hay! That looks like an interesting book and I think there is some stuff aboutt eh famous explorer Alexnader Brunes! Very Happy

If you want to read a great book about the same war then I recommend "Flashman" which is a ficitonal book and not a real hisotry but you can learn a lot about the war from reading it. Very Happy Wink

Cool
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Flashman" was written by another Scot !
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear scot47,

Good heavens - you mean that there are TWO of you? Yikes.

Regards,
John
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