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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: Resume question (long absence after graduation) |
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I have a question for those of you who are hiring managers or knowledgable about cover letters and resumes.
I graduated with my TESL-related degree and TESL certificate in 2009. I have not worked in the field since then (I took time off to have children and was a stay at home mother, I also used the time to go to school and learn the local language). Now it's time for me to go back to work - do I explain this absence in the cover letter or do I just not mention it until any potential interviews?
I don't want managers to think that I am leaving off some dodgy employment but I also don't want to face discrimination if they think I will just quit again to be a stay at home mother again (I'm done with kids!).
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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As an employer, it wouldn't be an issue for me.
In this industry specifically there are lots of people who take a year off to just go sit on a beach.
If I asked, your answer as described in your query would be sufficient but I am not hiring in La Belle Province either.
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:08 am Post subject: |
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I second everything tttompatz wrote. |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Thank you, I appreciate it |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, gaps in employment history can raise questions. Not all parts of the world have TEFLers who sit on a beach for a year.
The worst case is that a potential employer would think that an applicant spent time 'inside', if there were any unexplained gaps in the CV. This is particularly a concern if the TEFL job involves young learners. It is entirely reasonable of an employer to wonder and enquire about how the last five years of an applicant's life were spent.
I do not know what way is the best way of addressing this, however. Putting the relevant facts in the covering letter seems fine to me. In any case, I wouldn't just gloss over the gap. It will certainly come up at interview - if there is an interview.
I hope that helps.
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Standard police check covers that issue and should be part of a teachers application package.
If the check is there then the issue is not.
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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graduated with my TESL-related degree and TESL certificate in 2009. I have not worked in the field since then (I took time off to have children and was a stay at home mother, I also used the time to go to school and learn the local language). Now it's time for me to go back to work - do I explain this absence in the cover letter or do I just not mention it until any potential interviews |
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The worst case is that a potential employer would think that an applicant spent time 'inside', if there were any unexplained gaps in the CV. This is particularly a concern if the TEFL job involves young learners. It is entirely reasonable of an employer to wonder and enquire about how the last five years of an applicant's life were spent. |
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Standard police check covers that issue and should be part of a teachers application package.
If the check is there then the issue is not. |
Police check is going to make it clear that someone like santi took time off to have children as versus holding up banks?? |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:43 am Post subject: |
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spiral78 wrote: |
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graduated with my TESL-related degree and TESL certificate in 2009. I have not worked in the field since then (I took time off to have children and was a stay at home mother, I also used the time to go to school and learn the local language). Now it's time for me to go back to work - do I explain this absence in the cover letter or do I just not mention it until any potential interviews |
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The worst case is that a potential employer would think that an applicant spent time 'inside', if there were any unexplained gaps in the CV. This is particularly a concern if the TEFL job involves young learners. It is entirely reasonable of an employer to wonder and enquire about how the last five years of an applicant's life were spent. |
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Standard police check covers that issue and should be part of a teachers application package.
If the check is there then the issue is not. |
Police check is going to make it clear that someone like santi took time off to have children as versus holding up banks?? |
She might have been holding up banks but at least she didn't get caught and convicted.
Convictions and prison sentences will all appear on a CPIC check.
Even more information appears on a VSS search (required to work with kids in Canada).
FBI checks show even more (arrests even without charges or convictions appear).
Ya... a police check may not tell what she was or wasn't doing but it will tell you that she wasn't sitting in a cell.
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting discussion! I didn't think that prison would be on the radar, but I'm in the ESL (not EFL) context here. I graduated in 2009 but I continued my other career (in the RCMP ) until 2010 but between 2011-2012, I spent time learning French at a local government-run program, so I can show evidence that I was not locked up.
I just didn't want people to think I was hiding unfavourable employment! |
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kah5217
Joined: 29 Sep 2012 Posts: 270 Location: Ibaraki
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Any volunteer work? That's what I used to fill in my resume. I listed a lab class as an "unpaid research position" and my company was fine with it. |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:55 am Post subject: |
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No, nothing since 2010. |
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kah5217
Joined: 29 Sep 2012 Posts: 270 Location: Ibaraki
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Hmm. Worst case scenario, just list those years as "homemaker". |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:07 am Post subject: |
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kah5217 wrote: |
Hmm. Worst case scenario, just list those years as "homemaker". |
"Student" would be more relevant since she was a language student during her 'hiatus.' |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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True, student is appropriate as well. Quebec (ESL) is a bit different than the EFL world (and the rest of the ESL world). You cannot work here if you are not bilingual French/English, the idea of an English-only teacher just doesn't fly, so I needed to study French anyways before getting a job. Looks like my problem is solved (hopefully) |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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In my opinion, you should send your cv with the qualification but no explanation; the explanation goes in the covering letter which should accompany your cv. (As you will have noticed on my cv, ...) |
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