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delphian-domine
Joined: 11 Mar 2011 Posts: 674
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject: Where to find teachers? |
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Does anyone know of good places to place advertisements for teachers?
Dave's doesn't really fit with the kind of person that we want, and TES is hideously expensive - money that we would rather spend on equipment. |
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TwinCentre
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Mokotow
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I have some experience of looking for self-employed teachers to work for/with me...and gumtree has been the best bet on my budget...which sounds similar to yours. |
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simon_porter00
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 505 Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:06 am Post subject: |
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You can put it on my website www.teachingenglishinpoland.com if you wish, free of charge, it's getting quite a large audience at the moment. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:07 am Post subject: |
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simon_porter00 wrote: |
You can put it on my website www.teachingenglishinpoland.com if you wish, free of charge, it's getting quite a large audience at the moment. |
Interesting site, looks like good information. |
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Infinite
Joined: 05 Jan 2013 Posts: 235
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:00 am Post subject: |
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This here is a great site with teacher bios, locations etc etc... definitely worth checking out.
http://www.nativespeaker.com.pl/
Good Luck! |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Where to find teachers? |
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delphian-domine wrote: |
Does anyone know of good places to place advertisements for teachers?
Dave's doesn't really fit with the kind of person that we want, and TES is hideously expensive - money that we would rather spend on equipment. |
Just head down to the local watering hole and collar every native speakers you hear.
Make sure you've got plenty of shine on your shoes and fancy-pants business cards with them sticky-up letters on 'em to give out.
Make them an offer they can't refuse. Soon, you'll have yourself a fine specimen of a teacher by the short and curlies.
Oh, and tefl.com isn't bad. It's how I found my first job. Only two Poland jobs on there now so not much competition. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:02 am Post subject: |
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I have been surprised at TEFL.com's consistency of late. They are fast-becoming the leading general place to look due to their organization and ability to set news-feeds. |
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Infinite
Joined: 05 Jan 2013 Posts: 235
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:47 am Post subject: |
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I found the nativespeaker site to be extremely helpful. Helped me with two jobs at respectable schools, a voice-over gig and a small part on TV. |
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delphian-domine
Joined: 11 Mar 2011 Posts: 674
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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simon_porter00 wrote: |
You can put it on my website www.teachingenglishinpoland.com if you wish, free of charge, it's getting quite a large audience at the moment. |
That's a wonderful offer, thank you! I'll take you up on it as soon as I've actually written it out properly
[quote=Master Shake]Just head down to the local watering hole and collar every native speakers you hear. [/quote]
Already bothered every single drunk I know here and only managed to find leads for two possible teachers everyone else is pretty much unsuitable for various reasons.
What's interesting with Gumtree - I placed an advert there a few days ago, and so far, some Polish teachers are actually asking for more money than native speakers. It was slightly surreal to open a CV from an English guy asking for 35zl an hour, followed by one by a Polish girl asking for 40zl.
nativespeaker.com.pl was always good to me in the past, too. |
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Infinite
Joined: 05 Jan 2013 Posts: 235
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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delphian-domine wrote: |
What's interesting with Gumtree - I placed an advert there a few days ago, and so far, some Polish teachers are actually asking for more money than native speakers. It was slightly surreal to open a CV from an English guy asking for 35zl an hour, followed by one by a Polish girl asking for 40zl. |
Seems to be the trend lately... I put an advert out there last summer and was also surprised with the low prices quoted by some native speakers. I don't understand why would anyone want to sell themselves short like that. Although while living in the metro area I'd met few students from Canada and the US who didn't really care about how much, as long as they were making some pocket change. They were getting about $2K in from various grants, plus fully covered room and board... this was just a way to earn that extra few bucks.
I also didn't expect the cold shoulder we got once we moved to the country side. Looks like most of the schools had been burnt by a native or two and are very reluctant to hire new ones.
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nativespeaker.com.pl was always good to me in the past, too. |
That's where most of my privates came from. |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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If you have no qualifications other than being a native and having 'taught' before, you have to accept much less.
On the flip side, anyone who has at least a CELTA and charges 35zl/hr needs to seriously rethink their game plan.
Poles, by and large, have cottoned on to the fact that you have to pay more for quality lessons. But there will always be a few (mostly student types, I think) who just want to shoot the breeze with some dude all the way from Oklahoma on the cheap.
With teachers, as with lawyers, you usually get what you pay for. |
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Infinite
Joined: 05 Jan 2013 Posts: 235
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Master Shake wrote: |
With teachers, as with lawyers, you usually get what you pay for. |
Amen to that...
Unfortunately your Oklahoma comment rings truth even with some real teachers. Had a Polish teacher practically in tears tell me a story where some woman from some middle of nowhere US pretty much went off on her for using the word "since" in cases such as - "Since you're here already...".
telling her that this is absolutely inappropriate and people don't talk like that!
Literally screamed at her in front of the class embarrassing her.
She was lecturing at a Uni. full cred teacher with MAs, BAs, previous actual teaching exp. state side etc etc...
You just never know. Plus the lack of understanding of the differences between AE and BE. During a visitation, I listened to an American teacher tell kids that "to phone" someone is an incorrect and the only accepted form is "to call". |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Infinite wrote: |
You just never know. Plus the lack of understanding of the differences between AE and BE. During a visitation, I listened to an American teacher tell kids that "to phone" someone is an incorrect and the only accepted form is "to call". |
To be fair, I did my fair share of 'correcting' British English the first year I was teaching. For example, I told the students that the pavement was where cars drive, and I flagged up 'programme' as a spelling mistake. It was frustrating because, once the students realized I could be wrong, any correction I did had to include the caveat 'but it could be accepted in British English'.
We Americans aren't taught Br. English in schools and the only place we might encounter it is in literature or a Harry Potter movie. During my entire K - college education I only met a handful of British people. I think Am. / Br. English differences was about 15 minutes of CELTA so no real help there either.
So I think correcting Am. / Br. Eng. is a fairly forgivable mistake. It's bound to happen, and kids aren't likely to correct the teacher.
It's worth pulling out the old Am. / Br. Eng. differences lesson once and a while to clear the air, especially for teachers who aren't familiar with the differences. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Strictly anecdotal, but I have met more Brits frustrated at correcting American English than the other way around. Much of the time when it starts I view it as a joke or simple moaning, but lately have noticed an edge to it. I don't think I ever met an American who seriously cared whether you wrote colour or color in a sentence or did something at the weekend instead of on it.
I do remember seeing ads over the years which state, "UK applicants only". And NO, these were non-EU positions. These were p[laces like Thailand, Russia, China, etc.
I met one Brit in Kyiv fired in his first week when they discovered that no students could understand him. He told me three times his name was John and he was happy to meet me but I didn't catch a word he said.
Americans get fired too but I honestly cannot recall one fired for their accent or lack of being understood. It was always technique or poor self-management (punctuality, illnesses, drinking, etc.).
Still having trouble finding teachers?
I wanted to say thanks for those websites posted, hopefully they will be useful. If anyone hears of any camps or summer work I am looking not only in the Gdansk area but in Eastern Europe in general. |
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scot47
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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It is quite common to meet teachers from Britain who speak very odd varieties of English. Some are beyond comprehension to me !
I remember at school we were ridiculed by our teachers for using American constructions or forms. No exposure to US Literature o History in school ! |
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