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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Child Murder ? Reply with quote

Was this reported in the Saudi media ?

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-preacher-gets-light-sentence-for-killing-daughter-1.1141045
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VOM



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:04 am    Post subject: Fayan Al Ghamdi-Raped and Murdered his own flesh and blood Reply with quote

World press headlines yeasterday but hardly made a splash here in the kingdom. Arab speakers I asked, know nothing of it.
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Beast



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:02 am    Post subject: Is this normal or what..... Reply with quote

Not to make light of this terrible situation. It must have been horrible for that little girl. Where was the mother when this was all going on?

On another note..... A little 5 yr old Egyptian boy disappeared from a busy store in Khamis Mushayt and nobody ever heard anything about it again.

Murdering children and stealing young kids..... This place is not as safe as everyone believes. If you have children..... guard them and guard them closley.
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Gulezar



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this normal or what..... Reply with quote

Beast wrote:
Where was the mother when this was all going on?


More at:

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/tougher-sentence-sought-for-preacher-in-rape-case-1.1141634

Saudi bloggers have expressed anger and outrage at the lenient sentence for Al Ghamdi, who was found guilty of torturing his daughter Luma to death when she visited him and his new wife at their home.

Luma lived with her divorced mother and was allowed to visit her father even though he reportedly did not seem to care about her.

According to the woman, her ex-husband, appeared to be a gentle and reformed man after spending years of his life as a drug addict before they got married. However, following the marriage, he turned into a violent man who often often beat her, forcing her to file for divorce, she told Saudi media.
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OzMak



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds more 'deformed' than 'reformed'
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://blueabaya.blogspot.com/
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mr fred



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a nasty little druggie.
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mashkif



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr fred wrote:
Just a nasty little druggie.









Oh, really?? On the contrary, he's a prominent Moslem preacher who regularly appeared on T.V.

And so is the judge who passed the "sentence."

These "people" are very much mainstream in Saudi, sorry to have to tell you.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear mashkif,

So, are you saying that nasty little druggies are representative of mainstream Saudis?

While I agree that there are some nasty Saudis, some little Saudis, and some Saudis who are druggies, I'd say that the sum total of all such wouldn't constitute "the mainstream." Very Happy

Regards,
John
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teechagimme



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Children seem to be valued very differently here in comparison to the west. You can see parents pampering, indulging, and showing them off like adorable little dolls. You can't help but smile at them. They are irresistably cute. Unfortunately, a lot of them die unnecessarily because they are indulged in ways that are dangerous. They aren't required to wear car seats, and sometimes you can see them with their little bodies popping out of sunroofs and car windows waving flags for soccer teams and whatnot while Saudi drivers are not careful. There are lots of accidents and lots of tragic funerals where grieving mothers are told "don't worry, you can have another one" and other insensitive nonsense. If Saudi fathers continued to dote o their children as they do and were more concerned about child safety, this might be a good place to be a child...especially if one were a boy. As one young girl that I knew here said "it's not fair, boys get everything!"
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VOM



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:52 am    Post subject: Saudi Kids have Fun Reply with quote

So there we have it!

Pampered, unshackled Saudi kids are the cause of all the Kingdom's societal ills.

Dangerous, but boy.......... what great thrills they are having. How was your stuffy day?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, VOM... I think that there is more than a grain of truth in that detail. Children that never learn any boundaries or discipline will all too often grow up to be obnoxious demanding adults who know no boundaries and have little self-control or maturity...

VS
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VOM



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:40 pm    Post subject: Kids that need tough love Reply with quote

Yes VS............like to spare the rod is to spoil the child. I agree, one way to abuse a child is to give him his way all of the time.

It has been shown though that such kids tend to be more able to think for themselves, enjoy high self esteem and often become amazingly successful in later life.

Another, is to rigidly impose right and wrong, set the bar real high, punish him and reward only his obedience with love.

Later in life these kids can't usually think, never feel good enough in themselves, end up isolated, nerdish, relatively unsuccessful, some even become failing social commentators on cybernet issues concerning other people's countries about which they have no real business diddling about with. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never fear VOM... we don't think any worse of you...for your also becoming a failing social commentator on cybernet issues concerning other people's countries about which you have no real business diddling about with... Laughing

VS
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abayababy



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So many experts, so little insight.
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