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[DirtGuy]

"Of course, I am posting as one of the low earners. But Im also posting as one of the 'deliriously happy in my legal job that pays on time and looks after me exactly as I expect them to' people. Money isnt the only thing to look at in China IMHO .. think whole package and you'll do OK 9 times out of 10. Some jobs that pay low may work out much better overall than jobs that pay high."

Amen to the above.

Please, newbies, pay attention to this line of thinking and don't just look at the money. China is one really strange place and you are sheep waiting to be sheared in the eyes of many employers. Besides, it's pretty easy to pick up side jobs if you want extra income.

Dirt Guy

[NoBillyNO]

I for one am more comfortable with everything being negotiated in currency. I would never (wherever) let my employer be controlling housing or insurance.

[ecubyrd]

Op, you have good qualifications to get a good job teaching esl that pays quite well, has good 'bennies', and is a pleasurable place to work. Don't sell yourself short if you have the time to look around and choose. Hell, I wish that you would have been looking and I'd seen this thread the last time we were hiring, tbo.

[dudeteacher]

[Javelin of Radiance]

[fat_chris]

[Denim-Maniac]

dudeteacher - you do have an undergradutate degree as well right? There is no mention of that in your post. Whilst experience and CELTA is nice, you need the undergrad degree to be 'legal'.

I was being a bit flippant lining up all the things I think are key, but the whole package thing is really important I think. My first job in China paid the grand sum of 3300 RMB per month, which would draw absolute gasps of horror. The next job I applied for in China was with a training centre that pay in excess of 11,000 per month. But the training school deal is actually worse IMO.

That low paid job was in a desirable location, with few working hours and 17 weeks paid holiday. End of year bonus was up to 10,000 for flight money, which was paid without question. The FAO used to bring people to my fully employer paid housing for private lessons (in fact one of my neighbours used to host full classes for kids in her house ... she was making serious coin!)

The training centre job is in a less desirable location, with no housing provided or end-of-year bonus, and you work so many hours and weekends that the odds of side work are quite limited. The headline salary is higher ... but over the year its a far worse job I think.

[fat_chris]

[dudeteacher]

This offer is in Badong:

Contract duration:one year (from Feb. 25th, 2012 to Jan. 25, 2013)
Monthly Salary: Monthly RMB 7,200-7,500-7,700-7,900 based on degree and teaching experience (covering basic salary RMB4,500-4,800-5,000-5,200, house rent allowance RMB 2,000, residential allowance RMB 500, insurance allowance and clinic allowance RMB 200).

Even if one got top dollar. You would only have 5200 CNY cash left over which may be good in that city. I don't know.

Doesn't look like you could save as much as 300 dollars a month.

I find it very surprising that a lot of recruiters are saying a degree is not necessary. ARe they lying or are they planning to get the teacher work whilst living on a Resident's Visa.

Dude

[ecubyrd]

[rogerwilco]

That contract sounds like a contract from the notorious "Hangzhou Helen".
http://www.helengroup.com/hotjobs_con.asp?id=390&classid=25

The website should have the info needed to contact the school directly so that you do not have to deal with Zhejiang University Helen Chinatefl Network Co., Ltd.

[choudoufu]

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[DirtGuy]

dudeteacher,

Listen to what people are telling you here. What you are contemplating is not a good idea for soooooooooooo many reasons.

As long as people like you continue to take c**p jobs like this, nothing will ever change in this country.

DirtGuy

[Alexus22]