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mateacher



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:20 am    Post subject: Teaching in FE Reply with quote

I know this is not really the place but I am sure there are some people living in the UK who could answer this question.
I have a BA hons. in Economics and an MA TESOL/Applied Linguistics.
I was wondering if I could lecture Economics or Business at an FE college in the UK. (Im have a UK passport).
I heard they don't require PGCEs or teacher qualifications anymore unlike schools the requirements seem a bit vague.

Any pointers?
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Shelby



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught in FE for years and whilst it is true that you may be able to obtain employment you would have to gain a teaching qualification within a set number of years. This can be done part-time with some of your teaching being assessed. I have forgotten the name of the qualification but it is for teaching post-16 only.
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mateacher



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its called the PTLLS, but you can do it after getting a position.
How do you go about getting the positions in the first place though?
How competitive is it?
What could I teach in FE with a BA economics and an MA applied linguistics?

thanks
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Shelby



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think something in a business department using your BA in Economics would be most likely. It depends on your experience. FE tends to look for industry experience as well as qualifications.

I know that funding for FE is very tight right now so it may be difficult to find a full-time post but you may be able to pick up some part-time hours.
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mateacher



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its called the PTLLS, but you can do it after getting a position.
How do you go about getting the positions in the first place though?
How competitive is it?
What could I teach in FE with a BA economics and an MA applied linguistics?

thanks
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Shelby



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main website that FE colleges advertise on is TES but there is not much on there - mainly head of department or part-time. It is probably the wrong time of year to look for full-time teaching as the term has started but colleges sometimes find they have more groups than expected so look for part-time staff.

As I said before, depending on your industry background, you may find something in a Business Studies department. It depends on the programmes they are offering. Also some colleges may offer economics at A level.

Colleges often keep a bank of part-time staff so it may be worth contacting your local college or checking the web-site for an application form.
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mateacher



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you know of a forum like a daves for FE teachers?
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Shelby



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry. No I don't. I have never looked for one but have never heard anyone talk about one either.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much FE work is part-time and/or casual. Full-time contracts are becoming rare. Welcome to the the Land of ther Zero Hours Contract !
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Wilsonthefarmer



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Welcome to the the Land of ther Zero Hours Contract !

scotty, what's wrong with Zero hours?
And how's the practice in Scotland?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You commit yourself to work for them but they make no undertaking that they will give you any teaching hours. Turbocapitalism at its worst !
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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:

Turbocapitalism at its worst!



I was quite smitten with this term, and at first thought it was a Scottyism. But I see that it has been floating around the economic ether for well over a decade, and I have somehow missed running into it. (Or, alas, remembering it!)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/crash/interviews/luttwak.html
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer "Kleptocapitalism".
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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:

I prefer "Kleptocapitalism".



Even better!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casualisation of the Labour Force in FE in the UK means it is a bit like working in the London Docks in the 1950s. Hordes show up and the bosses select one or two from their toadies and lackeys. The rest are sent home
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