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BEWARE ILBC MANDALAY!!!! Stay away!
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grumpy cat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:48 am    Post subject: BEWARE ILBC MANDALAY!!!! Stay away! Reply with quote

this is what i want to write, can you correct it please...

I wanted to write this for a long long time now, finally I got it.

BEWARE OF ILBC, MANDALAY! SCUM!

My fiance and I moved to Mandalay last year in August after being in contact with a Dr. Than previously. (Qualifications unverified but certainly doubtful)

We had several agreements with Dr. Than before we even came to Myanmar. I will get back to those later.

My first impression of Dr. Than was very positive, he appeared to be a very polite and charming man.
He promised us help whenever there was a problem (whether with the accommodation or at school). He drove with us up to Mandalay to the house.

Previously, he hadtold us that "it is a brand new house, no one has ever lived in it."
As we arrived at the house, we quickly realized that this was a blatant lie!
He more or less dumped us there and drove back to Yangon and we never saw him again.

Every time we wanted assistance or advice from him, he was either at lunch, or digesting his lunch as an excuse for not talking to us!

As you can imagine, there are all sorts of problems in Myanmar, beginning with the unstable electricity. Our house had a generator that never worked properly the whole time we were there.

Other teachers arrived and got dumped similarly into another house that didn't even have a generator! Which means, no electricity - no water pump - no water supply! Not to talk of not having any aircon!

We teachers complained to Dr. Than many, many times, most of the time via email, as he never picked up the phone personally.
At the end we got an email asking us, "What's wrong with you foreign teachers, I'm sick of you all and I'm washing my hands of you! See how you get on now!" (This may be worded differently, but this was the gist of it.)

We left after just 3 months as the way we were being treated was absolutely unacceptable to us! We know that two other teachers also did the same this year.

One teaching couple, who had a year old baby with them, were sacked a week before the holidays, (No ten weeks holiday pay as promised) for being "arrogant." - What actually happened was that they had a sick child, no aircon and no running water for about ten days as far as I'm aware. How arrogant of them.

Professional teachers, stay well clear of ILBC!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crickey..that certainly is a cautionairy tale.



However I think that many teachers arrive in Myanmar without doing their proper homework on the place.

Outside of Yangon(and in Yangon itself) electricity can be very unreliable,blackouts are frequent and the general standard of infrastructure is poor.

Shoddy roads,holes in the pavement,open sewers,vermin,traffic congestion now,stinking heat and humidity.



Combine this with the increased cost of living and insane rental hikes from opportunistic landlords and Myanmar is increasingly becoming a hardship posting unless you are fortunate to work for a well paying school/business/NGO...



And ofcourse you are always at the mercy of your employer- the original posters school has a bit of a form of firing pretty mercilessly and not delivering on 'promises'-see previous posts on Daves.

However to be fair I'm pasting some comments from other sites on the web so any prospective employees can make up their own minds...

TEACHING SCAM AT INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE AND BUSINESS CENTRE (ILBC) MYANMAR
By:Katie Cinzano <Show E-Mail>
Date: 14 April 2011

Foreign teachers hired by ILBC Yangon are given unforceable, fake contracts that cannot be enforced. Those who complain are fired. The contracts include the following:
1. Witholding 25% of a teacher's monthly salary for the first four months in case the teacher quits - then the money in non-refundable. In case of being "fired" on some fabricated issue by the foreign hating HR toad, it is also lost.
2. A return air ticket is offered in writing on completion of a 6 month/1 year contract. Teachers this year were told they would only get this if they left the school and did not renew their contracts. Several quit and still did not get their tickets as they were told they were "fired" as an excuse to keep the money.
3. One teacher who had worked at this pitiful excuse for a school was fired after six years for considering a job with another school - no severance pay or notice given. The excuse was fired for "disloyalty." Another teacher got escorted to the airport after one week for arguing with the HR toady.
4. Teachers have to fund part of their own visa trips to Thailand every few weeks as apart from the air ticket and visa fee, there is no money left over for hotels, transport or anything else.
5. The "curriculum" is a joke that is complete and utter rubbish. Local teachers cheat like crazy on grades to boost their favorite or most influential students.
6. There is no orientation program and foreign teachers are for the most part simply there to provide 'white faces' to keep parents happy. They are not consulted on anything, given proper directions or support and NEVER assessed. Everyone ensures they take their full ten days sick leave to get away from the dump.
7. Classroom are grubby, overcrowded and have poor acoustics with gaps between the walls. Discipline is poor and there is no proper play area as the owner of the school runs a garage right in the middle of the yard next to where he makes vast profits from selling unhealthy junk food. Of course, there is no canteen.
8. Moral is always low amongst local staff and foreigners as there are no labor laws and anyone can be fired at the whim of the useless HR creep, the MD or the space wasting "headmistress".

Avoid this place like the plague. The cost of living has shot up in Burma and the $30 a month taxi travel for getting to schools is nowhere near the real price of $150 a month. Nasty atmosphere and administration. Also no reference at the end.


Re: TEACHING SCAM AT INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE AND BUSINESS CENTRE (ILBC) MYANMAR
By:Teachurrrr
Date: 20 March 2012
In Response To: TEACHING SCAM AT INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE AND BUSINESS CENTRE (ILBC) MYANMAR (Katie Cinzano)

Hello. Teachurrrr here. I can't speak about what happened the year before since I was not here, yet my experience at ILBC has been very positive. I have worked at ILBC from May 26th 2011 until the present. I plan to sign on for another year as do most of the current teachers I believe.
About ILBC, it is an IGCSE School, not a language academy, providing an English curriculum education for students from primary through secondary. I teach Secondary and I have to say our curriculum is for the most part solid and we have a good library with resources to bolster the curriculum. It's a proper school. Since I came here, the Managing Director has been nothing but sincere and welcoming. In my opinion, he models the mission statement in action and word. The Human Resources Department has also on the ball, well-organized, and very helpful. They always have time for us when needed. Most of our local colleagues have their Master's or PhD in Education and have been teaching for 20 - 30 years. Many of them have been at ILBC for 10 - 20 years. Retention of teachers speaks well of any school. Currently, we have about 8 - 9 foreign teachers whose qualifications vary - language teachers with BA's and CELTAs/DELTAs and licensed teachers with a Bachelorís or Master's from their home countries. Most have had at least 6 years to 20 years teaching experience in a handful of countries. There is much variety (America, Australia, Canada, England, Scotland, Philippines, and even Zimbabwe - formerly Rhodesia). Two of the foreign teachers have even been here for a long time (one teacher for 8 years and one for at least 14 years or more). Foreign teachers are welcome to stay long term if they wish. This also speaks well of the school.

I do not get the impression that the school is "out to get" the foreign teachers as is suggested on some websites. We are treated kindly by admin and staff. We walk through the hallways going to class with a polite nod to each other or sometimes smiles. This is much better than glaring eyes and hatred exuding as people walk by. We are included in every ceremony, concert, assembly, and field trip (if we wish to attend). I have never been made to feel unwelcome.

About the students, I have never seen a school culture like this. Our students speak English as if they are native speakers. Foreign teachers can speak normally (instead of a snail's pace) and students do more than comprehend, they excel. They know idioms and quite often use slang for fun. They are asked to speak English at school and actually do it with policing. It's a school and kids will be kids, but with the application of a little classroom management (we all have our different styles), they are respectful, diligent, and a lot of fun. I am very impressed with the school culture of respect. I have only seen our local colleagues, staff, and admin model this culture.

Some things can be authoritative (show me a school that can avoid this eventuality), but it has never infringed on my teaching methodology. We are allowed to teach effectively and participate in as many facets of the school as we wish. We are expected to be effective in the classroom. Our children sometimes bring us little gifts to say thank you. Their parents are kind and appreciative. We get to see them around Yangon and are treated quite well. I have been teaching for 12 years and only at ILBC did my students, on the last day, kneel down as a group and "pay homage" to me (as they do with their local teachers) to say thank you. What an impact! Talk about a "tear-jerker."

About the facilities, theyíre sound. We have two main buildings with working elevators and our own offices (shared with colleagues) that are air conditioned and have computers/Internet. The classrooms can be a bit small versus the number of students in each class (17 Ė 25 at most), yet it works. We have room to move around the classroom and desks are brought together to interlock and make work stations for group activities. We have a library and a very nice video room. We have an excellent gym, basketball court, and an outdoor canteen with proper foods or snacks, Myanmar style. There are also local restaurants and cafes near the school for lunchtime if one prefers and even a new sushi bar next door to the school with ac and Wifi. Itís a proper campus.

About salary and cost of living, Yangon has a handful of International Schools that pay teacher salaries and housing allowances ranging from US$1,600 + $500 HA to US$2,300 + $500 HA. ILBC's salary for foreign teachers is at the top of this group. On top of the "teacher food chain" are the salary packages at Yangon International School, International School Yangon and International School Myanmar. These are accredited via CIS and/or WASC, have AP or IB, and hire via Search Associates or ISS. Thus, ILBC has been quite generous in my opinion. I have taught at accredited "IB" international schools in other countries (hired through Search Associates) and my salary here is higher, the bureaucracy less, and the school culture better.

Housing prices in Yangon have gone through the roof, but decent apartments within the usual $500 housing allowance are out there. It can be difficult but one just has to be patient to find the right place. Usually your students (and their parents) are a good point of contact. They usually have a family member who has a place to rent and they are not real estate agents trying to charge you incredible amounts far beyond the means of most teachers.

Cost of living as always can vary greatly. It is possible to spend US$500 a month for food, taxis, and shopping for necessities. If one likes to go out clubbing, then double it.

About leaving the country, foreign teachers have to leave Yangon for Bangkok every 70 days (immigration rules) but the school pays for the flight and reimburses US$100 for the cost of the visa and a hotel for one night. Yes, most of us spend more than this amount but it is not a big deal (at least to me). Some teachers love having paid for trips to Bangkok. Others grow tired of it, but we have to do it.

About insurance, we do not have insurance through the school but local doctor visits are not so expensive and one can even get a comprehensive insurance plan from Thailand for about $400 if desired. Also, we have 3 doctors and a clinic at the school. So far, if I have a cold, virus, or mild case of the flu, they treat me at the school and provide medicine at no charge. As a bonus, they speak English very well and are kindhearted.

About flights home, we do not receive flights home at the end of each contract, unless we are leaving the school for good. It would be nice to have the ticket home, but once again itís not a big issue for me since our salary is quite generous.

About living in Yangon, the people are friendly enough and it is safe. It lacks the infrastructure we are used to from our home countries and other Asian countries. Things are improving, but there are broken streets and sidewalks, many very old taxis, and many places lack paint. Yet, we are not in Kansas anymore. Power goes out around the city often, but most people have generators to compensate. It is quite livable here if one is flexible. For luxury, there are 5-Star Hotels, world class buffets, clubs (if you like), restaurants with many types of foreign food, pubs, sports, expat communities, etc. It is quite easy to get around using English. Sometimes, it can be a bit isolating but other times it can be quite social. In my opinion, is much easier to find western amenities (foods) or get around here than Korea, Japan, or Vietnam.

About vacation, we get a solid week off (7 - 9 days) in August, October, 10 days at Christmas, and 5 Ĺ weeks in the summer. Some teachers choose to stay home and rest while others explore the country or take off and visit nearby countries (Thailand, Laos, Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, etc). Jet-setting teachers, oh my.

There have been teachers who were disgruntled, but I have seen this happen at every school in every country in which I have taught. Yet, there are teachers who are happy here and plan to stay as long as they will let us.

To sum up, itís a really good place to work but it is what you make of it. Your salary will be more here than in most SE Asian countries. They pay every month and the pay on time. I arrived on May 26th a few days before Term 1. On May 31st, they reimbursed my flight to Myanmar (expected) and paid me for the 6 days in May (which was unexpected). Basically, I received an extra US$700. The other new teachers received the same depending on when they arrived. These are not the actions of a school out to get people. There is a deduction (25% of your salary) for the first four months. Yet, if teachers have to leave before the end of the contract, this is returned to them (I know of two examples to confirm this). Also, teachers who were here before me said not to worry because it is returned to us during the summer break. You can look at the situation two ways: 1) the school shouldnít hold our money or 2) Iím glad they do it because it helps me save around $2,400 dollars so when we receive 2 months full salary and the retainer in March, I am going on vacation with a hefty sum. I have no problem with the deduction as option 2 is how I look at it. Yet, others might take issue with it. Lastly, before I came to ILBC, I researched the salaries it offered teachers over the years (2000-2011). Every few years, there is a sizable raise to compensate the rise in cost of living. Check it (Google) and see for yourself. Again, this is not the action of a school out to get people.

I have had a wonderful year at ILBC and highly recommend it. It has been rewarding personally and professionally. I am proud to tell people I meet in Yangon and at home that I work at ILBC. Since there are some negative comments floating around about our school, I want potential teachers to also hear about the positive. Cheers.

Teachurrrr


Re: TEACHING SCAM AT INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE AND BUSINESS CENTRE (ILBC) MYANMAR
By:Joanna
Date: 5 April 2012
In Response To: Re: TEACHING SCAM AT INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE AND BUSINESS CENTRE (ILBC) MYANMAR (Teachurrrr)

I speak from bitter experience and was one of 6 teachers who left this pitiful rip-off of a "school" around the same time, some did NOT get return air fares or their four months of retained salary - $2,000 worth! What sort of place does something like that which is illegal and immoral.
Teachurrr you must be one of the management stoodges to write in detail and at great length such absolute crap and lies about this place. Locally its reputation is one of the worst. Curriculum is beyond a joke, GCSE results are never published (wonder why) and some of the foreign hires cannot get a job in a decent school because they are alcoholics. unqualified (one Westerner does not even have a BSc), lack references and other issues that would disqualify them from teaching in a normal school. The owner is a greedy, money hungry thug who cares nothing for quality or morality. Running a garage in the middle of the playground says it all!


Re TEACHING SCAM AT INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE AND BUSINESS CENTRE (ILBC) MYANMAR
By:HUGO <Show E-Mail>
Date: 28 May 2011
In Response To: TEACHING SCAM AT INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE AND BUSINESS CENTRE (ILBC) MYANMAR (Katie Cinzano)

Agree with the last two post. I lasted 3 months and was so demoralized by the whole experience. The place is run by ignorant thugs who just want a few white faces to show the parents. The owner is a meglomaniac dictator. They try and make you live in a slum building without water or electric half the time, with rats and cockroaches. There is no proper curriculum and I felt really bad for the kids who thought they were getting an education here! The classroom and toilets are disgusting and unhygenic and there is no canteen or proper play area.
Is it not fit to be called a "school" and the government should close it down!


Re TEACHING SCAM AT INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE AND BUSINESS CENTRE (ILBC) MYANMAR
By:WeeWillie <Show E-Mail>
Date: 3 May 2011
In Response To: TEACHING SCAM AT INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE AND BUSINESS CENTRE (ILBC) MYANMAR (Katie Cinzano)

TOTALLY AGREE. THIS DUMP IS A SCAM. KIDS ARE SPOILT AND BADLY BEHAVED AND DISCIPLINE AND TEACHING ARE A JOKE. CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY PARENTS DON'T REALIZE THEY - AND TEACHERS - ARE BEING CHEATED. IT IS NOT EVEN AN IGCSE EXAM CENTER KIDS HAVE TO GO TO THE BC TO TAKE EXAMS.
DON'T WORK HERE!


Re ILBC CONTRACT SCAM
By:Turnoi
Date: 3 May 2011
In Response To: ILBC CONTRACT SCAM (anonymous)

Looks like a very, very rubbish pretend "school" - and the owners must be crooks!
Don't go to work for this place; you will waste your time and could do much better somewhere else!
25% of salary is retained for four months to stop people leaving and anyone who resigns is told they are fired and will not receive a return air ticket. The HR jerk and owner both hate foreigners but need a few white faces to appease parents. Morale is terrible at this place ... don't consider working here. Years of teachers having been fired or thrown out of the country by these thugs should give anyone considering working here a clue of what is to come!!!!!



ILBC Myanmar
By:Jay Gatsby
Date: 13 April 2012

Thanks to all for their postings about ILBC in Myanmar. I Googled the Bogus Bill who is posing as the Head Master and recruiter, and to say the least, his credentials were creative. I knew there was something fishy when they asked me to pay for my own ticket and all traveling costs and I didn't see any work visa available from the Myanmar embassy. It is so important that people share their bad experiences, it saves others from a similar fate. thanks again.



SCAM AT ILBC YANGON - SERIOUS WARNING

By:Overthere1 <Show E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 22 May 2011
Location : Southeast Asia Country : Other
ILBC cheats its teachers and retains 25% of their salary. They break contracts with impunity. The turnover of foreign teachers is almost 100%. Some last two days, some a week and some a few months. The HR dude is immoral, anti-foreign and a bullying cheat. Teachers who resign are told they are "fired" and lose either salary or return air tickets. The classrooms are total dumps, the curriculum material utter garbage and the students spoilt and wild. There is no medical insurance and if you get sick you get fired. The visa run allowance doesn't begin to cover the real cost of these trips. Whatever you do, you are screwed by this money grubbing for profit outfit!



Having had a the worst experience of my teaching career at ILBC, I agree with other posters about it being a 'scam.' After all, what genuinely professional education entity would attempt to retain a percentage of a teacher's salary - this is a human rights violation - and tells you all you need to know about this hell hole. Teachurrr.... you must be one of the management cronies to waste so much time defending this dump when everyone knows what it is. Money retained is not returned! There is some excuse such as 'inadequate notice' or some nonsense. The building is a fire hazardous dump with filthy restrooms and overcrowded classes with teaching material that is the worst I have ever seen. Teachers always have to supplement.

Wonder why the GCSE results are so bad and kids are avoiding the so-called 'Foundation' program like the plague? Folks, actions speak louder than words.



Thanx for all the info. No wonder they have to call their employees in to write nice things on forums like these. They can't even get a credit card. Now I wonder if they needed an account with s a visa card in my name to facilitate laundering activities. I am reporting this to my bank and the FBI. They are the worst racist pigs I have ever worked for. My advice to teachers would be to run as far away from these crooks as they can. Money WILL be stolen from you. And if anyone says different I have voice recordings of management to prove it. As to the positive comments. Definite propaganda by management

Re: SCAM AT ILBC YANGON - SERIOUS WARNING

By:Canuck <Show E-Mail>
Date: Thursday, 05 Apr 2012
Location : Asia Country : Other

I can verify first hand that that ILBC is an appalling place that has no right to call itself an education establishment. Retaining a percentage of any teacher's salary is unethical and illegal. Only in Myanmar can these goons get away with it, where there are dodgy teachers who can't get hired by a decent school! There are NO proper teaching materials, classrooms are substandard and disgusting and the owner is all about making as much money as he can and has no morals or scruples. Alcoholcs and the amoral are welcome. QUALIFIED TEACHERS SHOULD AVOID AT ALL COSTS.

Re: Re: Re: Re: SCAM AT ILBC YANGON - SERIOUS WARNING

By:John Sanders <Show E-Mail>
Date: Saturday, 16 Mar 2013
Location : Southeast Asia Country : Other

Having just left Mandalay ILBC, I will tell you that Teacher --- is the HR Director for ILBC and he is a despicable dishonest person dillusional about his own integrity.

He was entirely deceptive withholding crucial information prior to arrival. His promises were temporary after a couple months he stopped responding to emails or taking calls and stated he washed his hands of all foreign teachers because they complained too much. The lack of support for teachers would fill pages so I will not bore the reader with tedious accounts. The quasi-contract is designed to cheat teachers. Varying amounts of salary are withheld and paid holidays are often not paid. It was a verbal fist-fight and manipulation of resignation notices to get paid what I did get paid much less than I had been promised.

I have heard that the other schools in this area are similar in their approach and expat teachers in this city constitute something of a revolving door. The Burmese seem to not fully understand what are normal business practices and the concept of a professional worker. For the lack of a better term, I will say the school management is similar to the dictatorship model.

I would like to warn teachers coming to ILBC. YOU WILL BE CHEATED.

John

Re: reply SCAM AT ILBC YANGON - SERIOUS WARNING

By:Alasdair MacMillan <Show E-Mail>
Date: Wednesday, 09 May 2012
Location : Southeast Asia Country : Thailand

What an insult! I am a qualified English teacher with a bona fide degree and a DELTA, I have taught in 4 British Council centres in SE Asia and now I am teaching Secondary One English at ILBC in Yangon. The kids are great and I supplement the curriculum with a lot of my own ideas and adapt the curriculum where necessary. The Myanmar staff are also very pleasant people to work with and there's always a smile to greet you in the morning.

ILBC keeps one month's salary back because some teachers (in the past) have come here and then skedaddled when they didn't like something---leaving the school in the lurch, so to speak. How unprofessional is that? And in any case, it's wonderful to have a whole month's salary 'saved' for you until the end of your contract. ILBC pays the salaries on time; at Christmas before the holiday starts and at the beginning of the summer holiday you can get this retainer back plus both March and April salaries. Woo-hoo!

Teachers who complain about this school and about Myanmar in general are obviously the kind of people who will complain about anything...who judge this wonderful country by comparing it to their own countries, which is entirely unfair to the people of Myanmar, who have only just recently experienced the birth of democracy.

If you don't like here, then go work in Bangkok or KL or Singapore. Myanmar is a special place and to be given the privilege of helping to educate young folk here is a gift. A gift that needs dedicated teachers who don't think only of themseves and their own petty concerns.

ILBC is doing just that; I have enjoyed my first year here and look forward the second and beyond. Getting on with yourself is the key, I think, to getting on with others and appreciating a different point of view.

I wouldn't hesitate to recommnd ILBC as a great place to work.


Re: Re: reply SCAM AT ILBC YANGON - SERIOUS WARNING

By:AliG <Show E-Mail>
Date: Wednesday, 16 May 2012
Location : Africa

As some have pointed out, ILBC is terrific for 'teachers' who have difficulty finding employment elsewhere. Retaining any part of anyone's hard-earned and legal salary is illegal! ILBC model themselves on a military dictatorship. If anyone is genuinely concerned about teaching kids who do not belong to the Myanmar Elite - go volunteer in a monastery school - don't pretend that teaching the privileged and affluent is doing a service to Myanmar.


LBC Yangon

By:Alasdair MacMillan <Show E-Mail>
Date: Thursday, 17 May 2012
Location : Asia Country : Other

Oh come on!....Have you even been to Myanmar? The very wealthy and affuent Myanmar mostly send their kids abroad for their schooling or to ISY....the middle class send ther children to ILBC and a number of other private schools in Yangon. And another thing---I have met Daw Aung San Suu Kyi twice--once at her home and once when she came to observe two teachers at Brtish Council Yangon in 2003. I was honoured to have a noble laureate in my classroom for one hour and ASSK made it clear to my mostly middle-class students that she...and the country at large--- need the middle class. In other words, the middle class are key to this country's development. The children who attend ILBC mostly go abroad for their tertiary education and then some, admittedly not all, (although this may change), return to set up their own companies, which in turn employ anything from 10 to 100 hundred people and more.

Moreover, I have been in Myanmar for 11 years; it's a great country and has wonderful people; once again we cannot judge Myanmar and its nascent journey to freedom by what we take for granted in our own countries.

Last but not least, ILBC is a great place to work for teachers who are willing to make a go of it and experience the tide of change for themselves. I signed a 12 month contract last year 1st June and it has been honoured to the letter.



Re: ILBC Yangon

By:WillyWonka <Show E-Mail>
Date: Monday, 20 Aug 2012
Location : Asia Country : Other

Er - are you the Alistair who just got fired from this wonderful school ILBC for taking a fake sick leave?

Still think this dump is wonderful with it ever changing cast of deadbeats who come in early and go home even earlier Yeah like you, I have lived in Yangon for several years and dumps like ILBC give Burma a bad rap and cheat the students.


Re: SCAM AT ILBC YANGON - SERIOUS WARNING

By:john forbes <Show E-Mail>
Date: Monday, 25 Mar 2013
Location : Southeast Asia Country : Other

I left ILBC in Mandalay this year after just 3 months. So did my fiancee and 3 other people.

They lie to get you there, the contract is worthless and can be changed whenever they feel like it. The one and only contact for foreigners is a racist who does everything in his power to make your stay uncomfortable.

The contract they give you states that you are entitled to a 500usd housing allowance - in reality it is shared accommodation in a run down house with only basic amenities.

You will have to fight with the controller of the foreign teachers for absolutely everything. He is about 800 miles away in Yangon and is often uncontactable for several days at a time.

I could go on an on about the problems with ILBC but it would take all day.

This was the worst experience of my teaching career thus far, and I would urge any potential employees to give them a VERY wide berth!



Make what you will of all of this.
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Thanks tons for the info!
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Big Brother is watching you! Laughing Laughing
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Dr. Than sounds like your typical SE Asian flake, the kind that rises up the ranks in the land of the Buddha presumably because of superior Karma or maybe it's just the bad culture. Everyone who has worked in SE Asia knows about this stuff. I must say though up to this point I have not heard of anyone being messed with about their aircon, especially with a baby. Anytime you come to SE Asia or anywhere, but particularly SE Asia, you must have a back up plan. When I worked at a university demonstration school in Thailand we had a principle that supposedly had a PhD from Louisiana State. If only I could check into it.
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EFL Educator wrote:
Big Brother is watching you! Laughing Laughing


1984 - I love to carry that book with me and read it in public, esp. in Myanmar & Thailand Twisted Evil
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Prof.Gringo wrote:
EFL Educator wrote:
Big Brother is watching you! Laughing Laughing


1984 - I love to carry that book with me and read it in public, esp. in Myanmar & Thailand Twisted Evil


Laos too. Love is illegal along with being intellectual. Apparently, weird things like Judy Garland cults are OK. Depends on who you know I guess.
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bluetortilla wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:
EFL Educator wrote:
Big Brother is watching you! Laughing Laughing


1984 - I love to carry that book with me and read it in public, esp. in Myanmar & Thailand Twisted Evil


Laos too. Love is illegal along with being intellectual. Apparently, weird things like Judy Garland cults are OK. Depends on who you know I guess.


Judy Garland cults... more info, please!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plumpy nut wrote:
Dr. Than sounds like your typical SE Asian flake, the kind that rises up the ranks in the land of the Buddha presumably because of superior Karma or maybe it's just the bad culture. Everyone who has worked in SE Asia knows about this stuff. I must say though up to this point I have not heard of anyone being messed with about their aircon, especially with a baby. Anytime you come to SE Asia or anywhere, but particularly SE Asia, you must have a back up plan. When I worked at a university demonstration school in Thailand we had a principle that supposedly had a PhD from Louisiana State. If only I could check into it.


"Dr." is a joke, same as ILBC is a scam of a school, pages of negative comments for the past few years should be an obvious redflag...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lao Ding is going to Laos, not Myanmar. Please visit Lao Ding inLaos, where it's 'really boring.'
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sabai dee Lao! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFL Educator wrote:
Sabai dee Lao! Very Happy


Note to `travel while you work backpackers': Don't come to Laos! It's REALLY boring. You'll go loopy trying to find something to do besides drink beer. Stick to Thailand! Stay away from the boredom!!
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