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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 3:50 am    Post subject: Perhaps giving it up Reply with quote

I am in the process of making a decision as to my employment next year. I am thinking about ending my work carer as a teacher (too many years to remember) and looking out for the next 20 yrs or so. Since I have it pretty good here and have made bank, I want to stay in China and study reading and writing, and already have gone through the PSB investigation so as to satisfy them of no Labor Law infractions and now have the green light. The situation as it exist is I have to go to the US or HK to change to a L visa and then back to Beijing for the x visa.... so what I am seeking is the best visa service for this kind of change, so any contributions would be welcomed.
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Zhejiang_Man



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on whether your priority is to minimise cost or minimise time and the potential for problems. And with regards to the former, bear in mind that accommodation and meals in Hong Kong will cost you HKD300 to HKD350 per day.

The cheapest way is to visit the China visa office yourself (it’s not actually an embassy or consulate). An abundance of information about the procedure can be found on the ‘net.

The quickest and easiest way is to use the services of Forever Bright Trading Company - http://fbt-chinavisa.com.hk/ Give them your passport before 9:00 am and return to collect it, complete with L or F visa, at 2:00 pm. Or you can opt for their ‘drop off before 1:00 pm, pick up after 6:00 pm’ option.

Prices vary according to the visa applicant’s nationality. From memory, a 30 day L visa is around HKD600 and a 6 month, multiple entry F visa is around HKD2,000.
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Forever Bright Trading Company
seems to have a good reputation. I met a friend in HK who was there to get a new visa. We met in the AM in Shenzhen and went to HK to Forever Bright. Gave them his passport about 9am and we went back that afternoon about 4pm. They did as promised and got him his visa. he told me he has used them before and every time was happy.

The other option is DYI. Not a big deal to do it but you have to make sure everything is filled out correctly etc. And sometimes the line is long. The Agents have a separate line and don't have to wait on the general line so they get things done a little quicker.

Getting your own visa isn't hard - but you need to get there in the am and I am not sure if they still do same day visas for walk-ins
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys I have contacted them .. and they do indeed handle x visas .... quick ...I would rather someone else did the leg work and I can sip a cool drink.
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoBillyNO wrote:
thanks guys I have contacted them .. and they do indeed handle x visas .... quick ...I would rather someone else did the leg work and I can sip a cool drink.


HK is a good place just to hang out!
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks kindly sir....I never paid any attention to those HK threads....guess it is time to review what I have skipped over
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you really gotta get a new visa? the visa lets you enter china, and
you're, like, already in china. can't you find an agency in beijing that
can get you a new residence permit for study, assuming your school
will get you the necessary JW-202?

like these guys (not a recommendation, just a'zample) who say they
can get you a work visa in for bj without the trip to hk.

http://www.cn-visa.com/z_visa_application.asp
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would any sane and rational person send their passport to places and people they don't know and feel secure with this?

Never hear the stories of crooks who advertise then send you an sms that if you want your passport back it's gonna cost you 100k ?

Don't trust those you don't know .
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Zhejiang_Man



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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can't you find an agency in beijing that can get you a new residence permit for stud


I do know of one (apparently) reputable agency that can process 1 year X & Z visas for people already in China on an L or F visa, but their fee is RMB5,000.
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what I understand and Im still going through options .. because I have a workers permit ... I have to change it to an L first and then to an x or outside the main land change to a "x".....if I had an F visa .. no problem ... thanks Chou ..... I will look at the pm suggestion
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GreatApe



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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoBillyNO,

... can you shed any light on what you went through or what was involved in the PSB investigation you mentioned?

You're going through a process now that I may be interested in pursuing in the not-too-distant-future.

--GA
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to be brief... they check for any criminal behavior (didn't find any) miracle! That is not necessarily charges. They will also question age if your older. Labor department check to see if you have violated labor laws such as working without a work permit and violations like that. Then a health check to see if your will drop dead at the black board. The whole thing was carried on without any real involvement from me. Well except the health check cause it is hard to do that without a warm body.

As to the visa... as I understand it .. I have to leave the county to change to either a student or a L, and then return .. some agencies have insisted they can go around this but so far all have returned with "this is a regulation and cannot be gotten round"....

I was question as to "WHY" I want to study and the easy answer to that was I have made enough money now and I want to pursue a different course in life and I want to read and write Chinese to be more proficient.

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Would any sane and rational person send their passport to places and people they don't know and feel secure with this?


I think this is a judgement call and unless your sure and can track the passport it is unlikely this would be a safe alternative. I do regularly buy and sell bikes and often give my passport to the guy who is buying the bike..now before anyone bust a gasket...I do know these guys for many years and know where they live and where their families live.... the process is they can make more money with continued business than trying to sell your passport, so I guess it would depend on the relationship.

Now tht I have said that and have made this decision, employment offers are coming out of the wood work, and it make me think of that old line from an Al Pacino movie Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in. And like all ESL Michael Corleones, you stop and think about what your doing a second time .. then a third.....the uncertainty of future is exciting and revitalizing but at the same time daunting.
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