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How easy is it to get a job in Ukraine?
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Debrin



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:50 am    Post subject: How easy is it to get a job in Ukraine? Reply with quote

How easy is it to get a TESL job in Ukraine these days? I'm going to have a bachelors in English and a TESOL certificate. What kind of opportunities would that give me? Would I have a high chance of getting a decent job?

Also, I see from the other posts that it would be tough to get a visa that lets you stay for more than ninety days? Is that still true?
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1Sapphire1



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is pretty easy getting a job in Ukraine. I worked for American English Center for one year. They require you to be a native speaker and have a degree. They prefer that you have a TEFL cert and/or some teaching experience. My second year I taught part-time at a few different schools. It was a challenge getting enough hours. I hated teaching for 1 hours at one place and then going somewhere else to teach another hour and a half.
If you expect a work permit then you probably should only look for a job in Kiev. I left the country every 90 days and then turned around and came right back. This could be a problem in the future because if you leave after 90 days you are not supposed to return for 90 days. Currently they do not enforce this rule.
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mackayscanland



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been here a week (Kiev), and have talked to two schools. Both offered positions with their company. Also, if anyone is near Minska square, I would happy to hang out with ya!

Mac
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Archie Rice



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you think youd fare with a CELTA but no degree ? As a British native speaker with 2 years experience
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mackayscanland



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can say is that they wanted to see my B.A. degree, and I'm half way through my M.A. TESOL, so this really wasn't an issue I faced. I will ask around though for ya!
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Archie Rice



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mac. I know in some countries it's a visa thing, but then did think as Ukraine is a little off the beaten track that experienced native speakers with CELTA could slip in under radar
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mackayscanland



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay Archie,
I don’t foresee any problem with you getting a job here! Wait until September though, as everyone’s currently on break for the summer. Just know you will have to do ‘border runs’ every 90 days.

Mac Cool
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Archie Rice



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats the general level of english like with young adults in Kiev ? Ive lived in Prague and was very easy to get around and socialise in English, Im guessing its not as high as in Czech, but whats the general level like ?
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mackayscanland



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve been here for two weeks now. I have yet to meet anyone who speaks English very well, but I’m fifty and really don’t hangout with the younger crowd here, nor do I do the ‘bar scene’. Frankly, I’ve been fairly busy, and even had the opportunity to be taken to a studio, (and did so), for a voice test with a local media company in town. The subway (underground train) is easy to navigate, although, sometimes feels like herded cattle. The food is absolutely awesome and reasonably priced! I really hope to get out soon, and will try to post some experiences every now and then.
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Archie Rice



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds great, mac. Glad you are getting on well. Have you spoken to any schools or prospective employers for teaching yet? My experience is with teaching in company business classes to adults, ideally I'd like to continue in this field.
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mackayscanland



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am teaching a few of hours a week right now and will continue throughout the summer, although, they’ve all said that September is the 'time' for the masses of students who will be returning to study. I’m sure the business English model is needed in droves, but don’t have enough knowledge to comment on that aspect as of yet. I’ve had a lot of fun just discussing subject matter, Art, Biology, Literature, etc. with my students, (ages 18-35), whom have been quite happy with that modus operandi. My younger student is taking her TOEFL in a couple of weeks, so we’ve been doing a lot of prep for that nugget. Money is not my focus, and experience is more of what I’m looking for right now, and I’ll be returning home to finish my degree in mid-August. I am a Spanish speaker as well, (not fluent, but can hold my own), and may be heading to a S.A. country in the future. With my name, I am not hard to find on FB. When your ready, I’ll give you some contacts and you can take it from there. Things I miss! Listening to at least some clear English, Dry cleaning, five-degree diurnal temperature of 72-degree beach weather, my car, and a clothes dryer. As I am not sure if the latter even exists here, be prepared to do a lot of ironing! All the best Archie!

Mac


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Archie Rice



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha sounds like you're really settling in mac, good for you! To clarify when I say business English, I mean classes booked by companies for their employees. Sometimes they want to focus on narrow areas like business related language, but more often than not the classes are communicative general English. The latter is to my mind a far more efficient alway to learn, but some companies insist on following dry textbooks filled with HR terminology and the like...
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mackayscanland



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, copy that! I’m sure they exist, just haven’t been here long enough to explore that facet. I think once they know you’re here, that opportunity will manifest itself))
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mackayscanland wrote:
Yeah, copy that! I’m sure they exist, just haven’t been here long enough to explore that facet. I think once they know you’re here, that opportunity will manifest itself))


Plenty of in-company English classes are taught in Kyiv, but mostly through schools, as company HRs usually want contracts with their training provider...something which can be difficult to navigate on your own, especially without work permits etc.

There are schools here that will take teachers on with a CELTA but no degree, some of them pretty good. Shopping around is your best bet.
The scope for privates here is pretty good, though it might take a new-comer a while to build up a decent number of classes, as privates are usually obtained by word of mouth.

Quite a lot of teachers who come here, will take a job with a mediocre school for the first year, then move up to a better school, if they decide to stay on. Others come here to do the CELTA and get employed by the school that trained them.

I know this is a late reply, but hopefully some of this will be useful.
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dudeteacher



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cardinal Synn wrote:
mackayscanland wrote:
Yeah, copy that! I’m sure they exist, just haven’t been here long enough to explore that facet. I think once they know you’re here, that opportunity will manifest itself))


Plenty of in-company English classes are taught in Kyiv, but mostly through schools, as company HRs usually want contracts with their training provider...something which can be difficult to navigate on your own, especially without work permits etc.

There are schools here that will take teachers on with a CELTA but no degree, some of them pretty good. Shopping around is your best bet.
The scope for privates here is pretty good, though it might take a new-comer a while to build up a decent number of classes, as privates are usually obtained by word of mouth.

Quite a lot of teachers who come here, will take a job with a mediocre school for the first year, then move up to a better school, if they decide to stay on. Others come here to do the CELTA and get employed by the school that trained them.

I know this is a late reply, but hopefully some of this will be useful.


Curious, If you have a CELTA but no degree and get a job, can you then get a work permit?

Dude
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