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The skinny on direct-hire university opportunities
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's still wise to research the employer even in direct-hire situations.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumping this thread since the major recruiting/hiring period for direct-hire university opportunities for the upcoming academic year begins in the next couple of months.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Saudi companies don't want to prevent Midnight Running for the benefit of their dear workers who are left behind. It's only to make money off of those who are desperate enough to consider running and recoup costs off of those who have already run.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plumpy:

So as not to confuse others, this thread is about direct-hire employers and not about working for contracting companies.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of additional points about direct-hire opportunities:

CALCULATING SALARY: Many university employers calculate salary based on the applicant's verified years of professional experience, which is why job ads for direct-hire positions generally don't indicate salary. Applicants are to provide signed employment certificates or letters (on letterhead) from each previous employer stating the applicant's employment start and end dates, job title, and optionally, salary and responsibilities. Each letter/employment cert should also include the employer representative's job title and contact info. Experience gained via self-employment (e.g., teaching private lessons) won't be factored into salary. However, verified, non-teaching work experience could receive partial credit toward salary calculations. (This was my situation as a career changer.)

Additionally, salaries are capped regardless of the number of years of experience. For example, someone with 10+ years of experience would receive around the same monthly pay as an equally-qualified colleague with half that experience.

ONLINE DEGREES: Depending on the university/employer, masters degrees that fulfill the academic requirement but were obtained by online/distance learning (even from accredited, bricks-n-mortar universities) may or may not be accepted. Private universities are likely to be flexible with this requirement compared to government unis which are under tight Ministry of Higher Ed regulations. Of course, things could change... or not. Confused


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skinny ?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Skinny ?

Yeah, the up and up, the 4-1-1, the straight dope, the low down... Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused - did Plumpy have the skinny?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he is plump how can he be skinny ?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
However, verified, non-teaching work experience could receive partial credit toward salary calculations. (This was my situation as a career changer.)

Of my 5 employers in the Middle East, only one counted non-education experience for even partial credit. That was AUCairo... none in the Gulf.

VS
(OK... carry on Sasha and Scot)
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a skinful was involved?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAU also gives partial credit for certain non-teaching positions. In my case, I was given credit (six months for every year worked) for the two writing positions I held.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moreover, confirmation of previous employment is the responsibility of the job candidate and not the new employer; it's not enough to simply provide the contact info of past employers. This can come as a big uh-oh to applicants who, for whatever reasons, didn't obtain documentation from each former employer, especially if they have significant relevant experience. Something to keep in mind before leaving that last job.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Maybe a skinful was involved?


…and avoid the employers who are skinflints!

It's good to chew the fat with you guys.

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There used to be a secretary here called Fatti, who was skinny. Absolutely useless bloke.
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