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Jazziz23



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am telling teachers not to work for him. now stop being annoying man.

If that's the big picture you are trying to paint, I agree with Sash that the message is overboard. It's not up to us to say to anyone 'don't work for this guy.' We can only really suggest that it might not be an ideal situation based on our knowledge or experience.
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Peg Leg Pete



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron isn't unique in the Moscow EFL world (although he is amusing in an unintentional way). These characters emerge for a time and then vanish after they have got what they wanted or have been swallowed up by bigger fish.

I understand wanting to stop people from falling for such characters - that's part of what this site is for.

BTW, I notice the name change from ELC to Dialog - when these outfits start changing their names it usually means they are up to no good and are trying to cover their tracks.

More Paulaner!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron's not even unique to Russia - but still doesn't necessarily warrant the heavy labels.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonderful. We've gone from making assumptions about someone's criminality to giving advice to posters about a country we know nothing about.

It is probably better if you remain in your home country and do not come to Russia, if badly handled Skype interviews upset you so much. At least, that is the assumption that I'd make, judging from the tenor of some of these posts. Baseless?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the standards for business integrity in Russia is not as high as other places. Everyone is trying to make a $, some by uncouth means.

I have heard of Russian police bribes.... stuff that I never would deal with in my home country.


Everybody? I've worked with Russians for years. Not the case by any means, IME.

Police bribes? Visit the south of the US. Exceed the speed limit while driving. You will quickly find that bribes (of one type or another) are quite common.

Agree with Sasha that Russia's probably not for you, given that you feel it's so dangerous. However, the same stereotypes unfortunately apply to a very large number of different countries.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you didn't encounter cops, you wouldńt know how interested in bribescthey are.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. But there were constant and long-term political scandals involving numerous sheriff's departments across the region related to bribery. Google.

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Nowhere did I say that Russia is dangerous. How you got that from my anger directed at one ESL owner I do not know. Assumptions I guess?


But you have made other sweeping, unsupported statements, going far beyond anger at one ESL owner:

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Everyone is trying to make a $, some by uncouth means.

I have heard of Russian police bribes.... stuff that I never would deal with in my home country.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not worried about myself in the slightest, old bean. Doing just fine here amid all the uncouthness and corrupt police. Yet I have not learnt to 'shut my mouth' just because of rude remarks posted online, and do not see the need to start now. You didn't like my assumptions about your suitability for living here? You weren't supposed to. But did you not see how closely those comments were modelled on your own? The only difference is that my guesses stand a chance of being borne out by reality. How can one travel so much yet not display any circumspection? And how long does it take to figure out how to get a job in Russia? Samara was about a year and a half ago. Perhaps devoting more energy to searching for more solid positions would be more productive than wasting time blackening some stranger's name.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are the only one barking. In more than one sense Very Happy
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