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[hobo6]

I'd like to teach in a language school only. What are the chances of the following being hired:

No degree, TEFL certificate, 7+ years teaching experience (not all in a classroom), specializing in adults.

If memory serves me, I believe China requires a degree to teach, however this seems to be debatable in forums and in job posts. I have no problem working under the table if this is in question, however would want the Z visa so I can stay as long as possible and not have to do border runs.

thanks for positive, non-malicious feedback from people in the know.

[chinaroman]

Possible..... but it is going to most likely be in a terrible city that is not very desirable. In third tier cities and provinces it is much easier to secure a Z visa. I worked for a company in an awful town in northern China that employed non-graduates. Other factors such as age and appearance will also come into play.

[teenoso]

Are you A---------- in disguise ? Because he/she has now got a wonderful excuse to come back with some flaming reply, about rules and laws ..., and how this forum allows discussion of illegal activities.

I am amazed you can't find the answer in the many threads on this forum about visas etc.
1. Without a degree, you will not get a Z visa in your home country to enter China to teach, and therefore , will not get a Residence Permit to live and work here. (but I am sure someone has an anecdote to defeat this ).
Note that a 'degree ' could be online or whatever.
Work Bureaux in outlying provinces cannot possibly know what counts as a real degree in the US/UK/Aus etc.

2. Options then are to come on an L visa or F visa to teach - not just under the table , but strictly illegal and highly risky (again lots of anecdotal evidence that people do this , but plenty of juicy stories too of police raids, and FTs getting caught, fined and deported).
Border runs are not common here , and I am sure not permitted (but again who knows what kind of outrageous but true anecdote is waiting to be told of some old fox buried deep in the country who slips out and back again every six months and has been doing this for 10 years ...)

[twilothunder]

Agree with the above poster. It's likely to be in a highly undesirable location.

You might be bored out of your head, one of very few foreigners in town, certainly dodgy employers, no legal protection, earning barely enough to scrape by. I've heard this horror story relayed by a fair few.

Bright lights, modern world and the decent pay of Shanghai it almost certainly won't be.

[hobo6]

Absolutely not interested in Shanghai or Beijing. I'm interested in the south where the weather is decent during the weather.

Have no idea what A---- is or stands for. The reason I was asking this question was because I know from reading these forums that different things go for different provinces. The big 2 or 3 require the police check, but the rest don't. If time is restricted, the first medical check can be scrapped. etc. I have seen some ads which don't require a college degree, thus the question. I'm quite clear on the fact that one needs a Z visa to work legally and it can no longer be switched in-country. However, I've worked in enough countries to know that what is law and what is practiced isn't always the same. And I'm in SE Asia, not my home country.

Thanks for the responses.

[choudoufu]

[teenoso]

oh , my bad, I thought having a BA degree or equivalent was the absolute minimum requirement for a Foreign Experts Certificate.

But I guess lots of people teach here, on placements, as gap year volunteers, in kindergartens, maybe even in Uni (?) without the degree and the FEC.
Never understood the degree requirement , especially for teaching young children or adult beginners. Teaching experience would be much more valuable , IMO

It was your reference to finding work 'under the table' that set off the alarm bells.

[Prof.Gringo]