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Mike410



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:48 am    Post subject: Private lessons Reply with quote

If you teach private lessons, do you follow/use a textbook or do you create your own lessons?

I would imagine the structure of a well designed textbook curriculum is better for teaching and learning, instead of random lessons - unless you really know how to structure an ESL curriculum..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: Private lessons Reply with quote

Mike410 wrote:
If you teach private lessons, do you follow/use a textbook or do you create your own lessons?

I would imagine the structure of a well designed textbook curriculum is better for teaching and learning, instead of random lessons - unless you really know how to structure an ESL curriculum..


Didn't that POWERFUL CELTA tell you what to do?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP doesn't have a Celta.

In any case, the answer to your question is... it depends. If the learner is a beginner or elementary, then a course book is a must. And will make your life easier too. If the learner wants something more specialised, like help with emailing or presentation skills, then photocopies from various related books will do. If you are not sure what to do, then simply ask the learner during the needs analysis, and discuss the various pros and cons. Beware the student who just says "I want to improve my poor English, but I don't want a standard course book." These types are nearly always impossible to plan for. Don't want to work, is the main issue there.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
OP doesn't have a Celta.


FYI:

"Do you travel with your original CELTA cert?"

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1121303


Posted by "Mike410" aka The OP Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof. Gringo: do you troll internet forums, looking to be a nuisance?
If you have nothing of value to offer to a thread, please don't comment.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Private lessons Reply with quote

Mike410 wrote:
If you teach private lessons, do you follow/use a textbook or do you create your own lessons?

I would imagine the structure of a well designed textbook curriculum is better for teaching and learning, instead of random lessons - unless you really know how to structure an ESL curriculum..


1. First step, make it to a foreign country.

2. Actually get a job teaching English.

GOOD DAY Exclamation


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
OP doesn't have a Celta.

In any case, the answer to your question is... it depends. If the learner is a beginner or elementary, then a course book is a must. And will make your life easier too. If the learner wants something more specialised, like help with emailing or presentation skills, then photocopies from various related books will do. If you are not sure what to do, then simply ask the learner during the needs analysis, and discuss the various pros and cons. Beware the student who just says "I want to improve my poor English, but I don't want a standard course book." These types are nearly always impossible to plan for. Don't want to work, is the main issue there.

Good luck!


Thank you for your helpful answer.
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Mike410



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Private lessons Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:
Mike410 wrote:
If you teach private lessons, do you follow/use a textbook or do you create your own lessons?

I would imagine the structure of a well designed textbook curriculum is better for teaching and learning, instead of random lessons - unless you really know how to structure an ESL curriculum..


1. First step, make it to a foreign country.

2. Figure out where you are going to live, eat, shop, etc and also get set-up with a cell phone, copies of your CV etc.

3. If this is the first time you have taught, maybe you should get 6 months exp. under that belt before you decide to "branch-out" and teach private Ss.

4. If you are a good teacher, and you can netowrk, you should have no problem finding private Ss.

5. Now, at this stage you can start to worry about what you should teach in your own private 1-on-1 lessons or small groups. If you have taught for at least 6 months you should have been exposed to different levels, backgrounds/needs of your Ss, cultural sensitivities etc.

6. Set up some options for Ss as to when and where you will deliver the lessons, payment for classes, which books or what materials you plan to use. Also, providing a course outline is nice and also shows the Ss you are serious about them actually making progress.

7. Be SURE and come back on HERE and POST and HELP somebody else with the same questions you now have.

Or

8. Just fade away like most do, without being ever heard from again.

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That is a more helpful answer. Thanks gringo;)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:
Sashadroogie wrote:
OP doesn't have a Celta.


FYI:

"Do you travel with your original CELTA cert?"

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1121303


Posted by "Mike410" aka The OP Razz


Not that it should be of any concern to this thread...

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=972128&highlight=#972128
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike410 wrote:
Sashadroogie wrote:
OP doesn't have a Celta.

In any case, the answer to your question is... it depends. If the learner is a beginner or elementary, then a course book is a must. And will make your life easier too. If the learner wants something more specialised, like help with emailing or presentation skills, then photocopies from various related books will do. If you are not sure what to do, then simply ask the learner during the needs analysis, and discuss the various pros and cons. Beware the student who just says "I want to improve my poor English, but I don't want a standard course book." These types are nearly always impossible to plan for. Don't want to work, is the main issue there.

Good luck!


Thank you for your helpful answer.


You're welcome. All the best to you.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:
Sashadroogie wrote:
OP doesn't have a Celta.


FYI:

"Do you travel with your original CELTA cert?"

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1121303


Posted by "Mike410" aka The OP Razz


Not that it should be of any concern to this thread...

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=972128&highlight=#972128


Cool, so the OP is 31 years old now Very Happy Happy Birthday Mike Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The relevant point is that he doesn't say he has a Celta, but an online cert.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to be honest Mike (I haven't read the debate), this is some pretty basic stuff that any teacher should know.

If you don't know this, then I highly recommend using a textbook that comes with a solid teacher's edition. Most experienced teachers will do their own lessons, but that is a skill that comes with experience and training. If you don't have one or either, you are better off using a professional's previous lesson guidance. Good luck.

ESL Lounge has a database of quality lessons, there is a minimal cost.
http://www.esl-lounge.com/premium/
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Mike410



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

santi84 wrote:
Have to be honest Mike (I haven't read the debate), this is some pretty basic stuff that any teacher should know.

If you don't know this, then I highly recommend using a textbook that comes with a solid teacher's edition. Most experienced teachers will do their own lessons, but that is a skill that comes with experience and training. If you don't have one or either, you are better off using a professional's previous lesson guidance. Good luck.

ESL Lounge has a database of quality lessons, there is a minimal cost.
http://www.esl-lounge.com/premium/


Thanks for the helpful info!
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