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ord2world



Joined: 20 May 2010
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Location: Madrid, Spain

PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:09 am    Post subject: Enlgish First Bali Employees: Please PM Me! Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm moving to Bali this July, but I'm not planning on working until I move to Japan in February. Plans can change, so I was thinking of applying to English First in Bali, but I don't wish to sign a one year contract. In an older post, someone worked "under the table" for this company and wasn't expected to commit for one year.

Is this still the case? I think it might be possible if I go to the school (I know where they are) in Denpasar. This wouldn't be my main source of income since it's quite low, but paired with tutoring online, it might help if funds get low.

Terima kasih!

Becca
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Voyager2



Joined: 20 Apr 2013
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Location: S.E Asia

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it still happens. Call in and see them. Both EF and their online teaching sibling Englishtown are co-located on Hayam Waruk.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend with a bachelor's from Australia who is arriving in Bali soon to teach at EF. I am wondering about what he is looking at as well.
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Voyager2



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he is looking at? Long hours, low salary - but enough to survive comfortably, friendly Balinese, low cost of living, lovely mornings and a heavy heavy workload if you do online. Without a visa, youll be doing a mix of online and face to face. Hope that helps. Regards v2
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Tazz



Joined: 26 Sep 2013
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bali and EF make the perfect combination for pulling in the backpacker/surfer 'do a bit of teaching to pay my way' type....lovely mornings dealing with the heavy workload...dreaming of hitting the beach while eating the Balinese version of Bubur Ayam or Rujak at a street side food stall everyday cos that's all they can afford. There ARE serious options for teachers in Bali-[Green School, Ghandi International...] for those who are serious....
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Voyager2



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not only surfer types Tazz, its not just 'surfer types' you ought to resist that easy stereotype.

There are many older people whose presence here is a choice, all things considered. Further, the International Schools you write of 'for those who are serious' is a bit disingenuous, you'll need a B.Ed or B.A with a GradDipEd, a recognised teaching qualification. More than a BA.
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Tazz



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Putting aside the stereotype lets just say that 'serious' means 'legal'-as I and others have already stated in other discussions-getting hired legitimately in Indonesia is a grey area......but people travelling to Bali [regardless of age, gender or motivation for doing so] intending to work 'under the table' as the OP stated are asking for trouble and probably deserve to find it.
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BekasiWhistle



Joined: 19 Jul 2013
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tazz wrote:
Putting aside the stereotype lets just say that 'serious' means 'legal'-as I and others have already stated in other discussions-getting hired legitimately in Indonesia is a grey area......but people travelling to Bali [regardless of age, gender or motivation for doing so] intending to work 'under the table' as the OP stated are asking for trouble and probably deserve to find it.


I don't think teachers deserve to get in trouble. These schools are often misleading. TBI lies to people that business consultant visas are "almost legal" when they are completely illegal. I know a few people who have got stung. But if your point is beware of Indonesia- hati hati in Indonesia- I agree with that. It's a cowboy industry.
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Tazz



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being misled by cowboy employers is something to look out for-TBI for example. However, work visa's are valid for 1 year-if done legitimately they cost the employer a considerable sum, hence no employer will ever hire somebody for, say 6 months....isn't going to happen. The OP is aware of this-wants to spend some time in Bali as a 'stepping stone' before moving to Japan-working here 'illegally' or 'under the table' as stated...Indonesia isn't the country to do this. And furthermore, Bali isn't the destination in Indonesia to do this! Bali's immigration are always 'on the prowl' as it were, and if caught working illegally the OP can certainly kiss goodbye to his/her plans for Japan-the arrest + deportation order in the passport will take care of that.
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bradleycooper



Joined: 12 Apr 2013
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tazz wrote:
Being misled by cowboy employers is something to look out for-TBI for example. However, work visa's are valid for 1 year-if done legitimately they cost the employer a considerable sum, hence no employer will ever hire somebody for, say 6 months....isn't going to happen..


I agree that people are mad to come to Indonesia and work "under the table". Deportations don't happen every day, but they are a real possibility. A few major chains have seen them happen in the past. There are a lot of corrupt officials in Indonesia (this is an understatement actually) and they can be quite predatory. You don't want to get caught up in a raid. There are now several different government departments "squeezing" schools- Manpower, Immigration and DIKNAS. If you want a short-term contract, try Cambodia or Thailand.
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