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Infinite
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: From what I remember... |
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dragonpiwo wrote: |
1-1900zl/ month plus the parking, which you pay EXTRA for.
2-Groceries about 300 a week.
3-Child support 1500Zl a month.
4-Kid's activities and clothes etc about 800/month
5-Medicines about 300/month
6-Phone about 150 a month
7-Travelling/City breaks/Going out about 5000 a month |
LOL ... no really I've actually laughed out loud. |
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Infinite
Joined: 05 Jan 2013 Posts: 235
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: erm |
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ecocks wrote: |
Yeah, there's a very clear pattern. You have no grasp of reality in your continuing rush to try to prove something to anyone you can harangue into listening to you in search of validating something in your mind.
This is why you have no credibility and a lot of people question your knowledge of "living" in Poland. |
shhh.... 4 pages to read this hahaha... thnx ecocs. You swept the words straight from my keyboard. |
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Infinite
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Small town about 40km from a major city. Everyone's posting costs of living in big Polish cities, but that's not all that's out here.
1400PLN /Month 80m flat
Winter heat - 250pln/m
Summer heat - 80pln /m
[gas heat]
family of four - 2 kids
1000pln / m food
kids extracurricular
[martial arts/dance/pool] - 100pln
ZUS [tax on running company aka social security] - 1100pln/m [or about 400 during the first two years]
Three cellphone bills 260pln per month [tax deductible]
School lunches (2kids) - 12pln per day [two full, hot meals - I can actually join my kids if I want to and pay 6pln]
Free pre and after school care between 6am to 4pm
Private health care - 220pln per month [although not entirely necessary if you're here legally, children under the age of 18 receive mandatory free health care but I'm one of those - better safe than sorry types]
Internet 79pln/m
Bus Ticket one way 3,40pln
Beer at a local bar 5pln
Train or bus ride to the city 8,80pln / 10pln [1hr ride]
Bus to the mountains - 3,40 [20min ride]
Działka aka private garden with a small hut where you can grow your own fruit and veggies - 50pln per month.
If you're NOT legal and can't register with the Polish health care services, a private visit to a general doctor - 40pln
a private visit to a specialist - 100pln
Medication, in comparison to the states, is ridiculously inexpensive [on a teacher's salary that is].
Pay in a small town IF you're running your own business:
Private lessons, individuals 60pln/60mins [experienced Native Speaker rate of course]
Proof reading 30pln per page
Translation 50pln per page
Group lessons 150pln/m for Gen Eng, Biz Eng 170pln/m
If you want to hire a Polish teacher to handle some of your extra classes, paying them anything less than 30pln / h is rape and I would not be able to look them in the eye. Although most schools in small town pay much less. The bigger the school the worse the pay. |
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:28 pm Post subject: erm |
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From my perspective, the wages haven't changed in years. However, the cost of living has, dramatically. |
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Infinite
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: erm |
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dragonpiwo wrote: |
From my perspective |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:59 am Post subject: |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:01 am Post subject: Re: erm |
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Infinite wrote: |
dragonpiwo wrote: |
3-I love the Polish seaside but it is costly.
I just like normal stuff...nothing about being flash. |
Just pent 10 days at the Polish seaside with a family of four. Total cost?
870PLN.
Got there by train, stayed in a camper about 200m from the beach.
Yes, shared bathroom at the camp site, I can deal with that "nothing flash". The camper was a nice communist era type thing which was a nice touch. We ended up making friends with a family next to us who were also heavy into fish. So mornings and afternoons at the beach, evenings with fresh fried fish and vodka. The real Polish experience.
It's possible to spend very little money in Poland on travels and vacations, just need to look for the "real Polish experience" and not tourist traps with kebab joints and Chinese souvenir stands littering every block.
South West of Poland is absolutely amazing and very cheap. Also, proximity to the border allows for a great opportunity to have beer nights. Czech beer - 3pln per 1l can't go wrong with that when it comes with a nice portion of local fried cheese.
Our jobs allow us to find out about some of the best vacation spots in the country. Just run a lesson on your favorite vacation spot in May and take notes Give it few years and you'll be telling your students where they should be staying. |
Well done!
Good to see some folks understand about the realities of living in a foreign country.
Took me a minute to figure out posting order. |
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:05 am Post subject: erm |
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Sounds like fun but it's horses for courses. I don't do camping. Me and the missus tend to rent a flat or stay in a hotel. We got a good deal in Krakow at 200Zl/night for nice studio but Sopot was 450Zl and Kolobrzeg 1,200 for 3 nights but it was the Marine Hotel on the beach. The seaside is a bit overpriced IMHO. Beskidy is definitely on the radar at some point as I've never been and have hard great things about the place. |
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Infinite
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:09 am Post subject: Re: erm |
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ecocks wrote: |
Well done!
Good to see some folks understand about the realities of living in a foreign country.
Took me a minute to figure out posting order. |
Well, there are many folks that do, they just don't post here for obvious reasons. Glad to meet a reasonable and like minded person here for a change. Each part of Poland is full of reasonably priced and beautiful places worth visiting. This year alone we discovered three worth checking out. If you're into the mountain thing - Kotlina Kłodzka is your place. They actually filmed some of the scenes for the "Prince Caspian" there. Absolutely enchanting place. Warmia and Mazury, if you're not into crowds, pick Warmia, if you're more into the popular spots with "attractions" go for Mazury. 2000 lakes to choose from with beautiful log cabins cheaply and readily available. Amazing nature reserves and only a 3hr ride from Warsaw. Bieszczady, Pieniny, Karpaty... all really cool... Not too many people know this, but if you ever feel like embarking on a cool journey - if you walk along the mountain ridges in Poland, you're always about a day's worth a hike from shelter to shelter. They call them shelters - 18 - 30pln per night, usually located in a nice secluded area somewhere in the mountains. Poland's hiking culture is very specific to this area and all of these shelters are always full of very friendly and smiling folks eager to share a hot cup of wine or mead with new comers. Good times. And that's just scratching the surface. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Funny that you mentioned Mazury.
Could you suggest any locations for a 2-3 night visit? I'm being pressured to hit Malbork and looking for another area to shift to after two or three nights.
Plan would be to travel by bus or train from Krakow to Malbork, then hit Gdansk for a couple of nights and on to somewhere else for 2-3 more nights before heading to Warsaw.
Is it realistic to get there and spend 2 to 3 nights with plenty to do? |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:44 am Post subject: Ryanair |
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ecocks, have you checked out Ryanair? You can fly from Krakow to Gdansk for as little as 63 zloty. and from Warsaw to Gdansk for 19zl.
Some nice scenery on the trip up to Gdansk, but not worth the 5-7 hour train or bus ride, IMO. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Personally, I prefer taking the train or bus but those are some fantastic rates. Doesn't sound like enough to pay for gas to takeoff so are you sure they land under power?
I was thinking more like Krakow to Malbork to Gdansk to ?????? (Mazury or somewhere). Maybe Wroclaw to Torun (?) to Malbork to Gdansk, then to Warsaw).
Will see what the future holds. |
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Infinite
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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ecocks wrote: |
Funny that you mentioned Mazury.
Could you suggest any locations for a 2-3 night visit? I'm being pressured to hit Malbork and looking for another area to shift to after two or three nights.
Plan would be to travel by bus or train from Krakow to Malbork, then hit Gdansk for a couple of nights and on to somewhere else for 2-3 more nights before heading to Warsaw.
Is it realistic to get there and spend 2 to 3 nights with plenty to do? |
Hey! Sorry, I don't come here very often. I spent two weeks in Mazury this year with the fam. Again, we do camp - the real experience - lake, tent, late night fires etc etc... spent a total of 600pln... if you're looking for a place, I found a great one by Iława. It's on Poland's longest lake - Jeziorak. Canoeing, camping, chilling and tons of swimming with a beach and another beach hidden in the forest just a short 5 min walk. Hit me up next year. |
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:51 pm Post subject: ha |
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You must be Ray Mears or a hunter gatherer. The petrol alone must have been 400. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Infinite wrote: |
ecocks wrote: |
Funny that you mentioned Mazury.
Could you suggest any locations for a 2-3 night visit? I'm being pressured to hit Malbork and looking for another area to shift to after two or three nights.
Plan would be to travel by bus or train from Krakow to Malbork, then hit Gdansk for a couple of nights and on to somewhere else for 2-3 more nights before heading to Warsaw.
Is it realistic to get there and spend 2 to 3 nights with plenty to do? |
Hey! Sorry, I don't come here very often. I spent two weeks in Mazury this year with the fam. Again, we do camp - the real experience - lake, tent, late night fires etc etc... spent a total of 600pln... if you're looking for a place, I found a great one by Iława. It's on Poland's longest lake - Jeziorak. Canoeing, camping, chilling and tons of swimming with a beach and another beach hidden in the forest just a short 5 min walk. Hit me up next year. |
Thanks for the info!
There's a group forming but we're not thinking about camping. Nothing against it but renting gear from somewhere for only 2-3 nights wouldn't work well. I'll check out the spots you mention. |
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