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Infinite
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 Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: ha |
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| dragonpiwo wrote: |
| You must be Ray Mears or a hunter gatherer. The petrol alone must have been 400. |
Try trains or buses. They do work you know. A family ticket for 4 people on a train from Warsaw to Mazury is 200zl round trip.
We spent 250zl on the camp site [10days].
Food, beer etc etc... that was another 200zl and that included home made tinctures, fresh fish caught every morning at the site and local veggies straight from farms. I know, you'd prefer champagne, caviar and main course wrapped in albino sperm whale skin... but that's not my sorta thing. |
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:35 pm Post subject: erm |
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Can't stand caviar and I took a train last week from Poz to Berlin and it cost 44 Euros.
So you go and catch your food, take food from home, drink from home and get the slow stopper to Mazury. Oh and live in a tent.
I'm sure your kids love that but it ain't for me. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| All this talk about camping reminds me of visiting Biesczady in the 1960s. Is it still undeveloped ? |
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sparks
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, but the trains don't actually work 
Can't really rely on to get trains to get you anywhere unless you have all the time in the world, in all honesty. |
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dynow
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Infinite wrote:
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| Food, beer etc etc... that was another 200zl |
wait wait wait......
200zl for a family of 4.....for 10 days....and that paid for food, beer, and whatever constitutes "etc".....how the $HIT does one pull that off?
were you stealing from other people's tents? |
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Master Shake
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| dynow wrote: |
| were you stealing from other people's tents? |
A proud Polish tradition. Remember, if it isn't locked up, it belongs to 'the community'. 
But seriously, 200zl for 4 people for 10 days of vacation is pretty impressive.
Infinite and dragonpiwo are obviously on opposite ends of the spending spectrum. A word of advice: Don't travel together. |
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delphian-domine
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| All this talk about camping reminds me of visiting Biesczady in the 1960s. Is it still undeveloped ? |
Some parts are now hideously overdeveloped, such as Cisna, Ustrzyki Górne, Wetlina and Polanczyk. But there are still many relatively undeveloped areas - Komańcza has avoided the worst of it, for instance.
| dragonpiwo wrote: |
| I'm sure your kids love that but it ain't for me. |
Isn't that the entire point of having kids? If my 5th class lot are anything to go by, they've actually been begging to go somewhere quiet where they can do whatever they want as opposed to some 'organised' holiday. Horses for courses though, I'm sure you've said before
Not sure where your petrol figures are coming from though - I go to Croatia every year to the coast for a couple of weeks, and driving at between 120-130km/h, I can fill the car up in somewhere such as Split, use half a tank (about 22 litres) to get to Graz in Austria and then a full to the brim tank from there to Poznań (about 44 litres).
Works out at about 1350km, 15 hours or so and about 66 litres used. From memory, it's between 300zl and 350zl for the run.
The drive itself is laughably easy - stay in Wrocław, leave at about 7pm, normally in Zagreb by breakfast time and an easy 3 hour run down the A1 in Croatia to the coast. Two drivers - no problem.
(having said this, I can't understand why the hell anyone would go to the Baltic Sea for their holidays when Croatia is so close) |
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dynow
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Master Shake wrote: |
| dynow wrote: |
| were you stealing from other people's tents? |
A proud Polish tradition. Remember, if it isn't locked up, it belongs to 'the community'.
But seriously, 200zl for 4 people for 10 days of vacation is pretty impressive.
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200zl for 10 days means 20zl per day. divided by 4 = 5 zl per head, per day.
we're talking about living on $1.30 per day. |
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Master Shake
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Much of the world lives on less than $1.30 a day.
Ask him for a breakdown of costs if you're skeptical. I bet he'd give you one. |
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dynow
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I wasn't really taking into account what people in 3rd world countries live off each day.
I guess we can start discussing cost in Poland based on dumpster diving and general hobo'ing but that wouldn't be too useful for most people that read here.
The disclaimer here, of course, is that I'm not suggesting he's dumpster diving. Just saying that living off 5zl per day is....well.... |
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:38 am Post subject: erm |
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You can't live on 5z a day, it's just impossible. It's not even a goracy kubek (cuppa soup).
Even when I did a summer camp 20 years ago with free food and board, I spent more than 5 z a day.
It's total BS. |
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sparks
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:11 am Post subject: |
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You guys don't know what you're talking about, can't live off of 5 zl. a day? a bulka in Carrefour costs 33 grosze, buy 5 for 1.65 zl. go to Biedronka and buy a jar of mustard, about 2.50 zl. that's only 4.15 zl. and you get five meals a day. Save the 85 remaining grosze for a couple of months and you can go backpacking somewhere like Skierniewice or Grojec with your wife and 8 children.
You guys don't know how to live.
Here's a link to the mustard.
http://www.dlahandlu.pl/koszyk/towar/musztarda-kamis-185-g-rozne-rodzaje,13.html |
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:10 am Post subject: hummm |
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When I go on holiday, I hitchhike with the kids to Mazury. We build a shelter from evergreen branches and weave fishtraps. We spend our mornings foraging for berries while my eldest goes and busks in the local tourist trap. In the afternoon, while the kids are on the beach, my wife hangs around outside supermarkets waiting for them to dump stuff and raids the skip. To pass the time we make ancient games by drawing lines in the sand and screwing about with stones and sticks. Stones sticks and sand is our favourite game. In the evening we make fire and I play my guitar, which is made from the sinews of roadkill.
It costs us nothing.
Here's how I learned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls |
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dynow
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:00 am Post subject: |
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little rolls and mustard. that's what we're talking about.
who needs meat? cheese? vegetables? hell, who needs nutrition. and i guess we're drinking water from the nearest river.
imagine being a guest at this man's house. |
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sparks
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry i didnt add "Just kidding" for the duller members on here |
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