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EFL in UK - New Hope

 
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jaffa



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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: EFL in UK - New Hope Reply with quote

Just browsing through the Guardian and came across this piece about TEFL in UK secondary/primary schools. Could have interesting potential. The comments below the article are positive too.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/mar/30/city-of-leeds-school-english-as-second-language
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JRJohn



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:49 pm    Post subject: Good Reply with quote

Sounds great! If I get a PGCE I will be trained to teach Spanish, French and EFL Very Happy !
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Captain Coddo



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope? In EFL? I'm not so sure about that.

Just remember the old saying: 'those who live on hope die of starvation'.

Who said that, by the way? Was it Benjamin Franklin?

And did he ever teach English?
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was in secondary school there was an 'ESOL tutor'. They wouldn't hold classes, but they'd see individual students for one hour slots. I didn't think much of it at the time, or even know what 'ESOL' was! Only later when I met a former classmate did he remind me of the 'ESOL tutor' and it clicked.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/29231.html

My google search also suggested that this originates as a Turkish proverb.

http://www.inspirationalstories.com/proverbs/turkish-he-who-lives-on-hope-dies-of/
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Mr. Bourenmouth



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Coddo wrote:
Hope? In EFL? I'm not so sure about that.

Just remember the old saying: 'those who live on hope die of starvation'.

Who said that, by the way? Was it Benjamin Franklin?

And did he ever teach English?


Don't know, but i don't think there is any cause for hope in TEFL in the UK, certainly in Bournemouth. I can only imagine things are much the same in other cities.

One of the most prestigious and the largest school in town is doing a price-match with budget schools, they are so desperate for business. The oldest school in Bournemouth is down to operating out of one building when it used to have three, and the only schools that seem to be doing well are those that are overrun with Kuwaitis, Libyans and Saudis.

On top of that, students that do come seem cynical and obsessed with their phones. I don't feel there is nearly as much of the wide-eyed enthusiasm that there used to be.

One can't help but feel the industry is dying or changing so rapidly. People are learning English at home, getting their IELTS and then coming straight to university, in colleges across Europe, it seems we've lost that monopoly as well.

Sad really.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reminds me of the article in the Readers' Digest Medical Pages :"New Hope for The Dead."
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MdSmith



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get it, there seems to be plenty of tefl jobs in England and all those sessional EAP positions, why is there no hope?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of TEFL jobs ? Not many paying a living wage though ! Welcome to the world of the Zero Hours Contract ! That includes reputable universities !
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:47 pm    Post subject: No hope Reply with quote

It's the same in France. I have TWO zero-hours contracts. Doubleplusbad! Crying or Very sad
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