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The JIS Debacle and Criminal Record Checks
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godmachine12



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's great there were closed-door negotiations, etc., but where is he now? He's back in an Indo prison in what could only be subhuman conditions. My point is what was done to help him in any practical manner? Someone could have smuggled him out of the country, diplomatic protection, new passport or something

Pretty sure that using diplomatic protections to extract a criminal from the country would be a breach of the Vienna Convention. Those diplomatic protections only exist if the people that enjoy them also respect the laws of the countries they work in, and don't interfere in the internal affairs of that country. This isn't the first time a miscarriage of justice against a national in a foreign country has occurred and sometimes they take years to resolve. Unfortunate, but that's reality.


His conviction was overturned and he was released so, at the time he was out of prison, he would not have technically been a ‘criminal’ as he is again now according to the Indonesian supreme court. He would have at most been the defendant in a civil suit; far cry from a criminal I'd say. It's novel and all to put faith in the Indo judicial system, but reality says you'd be wise not to unless you fancy an Indo prison. Sad thing is, it would seem Mr. Bantleman has all but been forgotten. Any progress in his case? Hear about it in the press often? I don't. Poor sod.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bradleycooper wrote:
Indonesia Prepares Tougher Penalties for Pedophiles
Pedophiles-Chemical-Castration- Sex Offenders


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Indonesia is moving forward with tougher penalties for convicted pedophiles, according to the department of Women’s Empowerment and Child Protection.

The three regulation drafts follow a revision to Indonesia’s law on child protection, six months after the government proposed that it take effect. The gang rape and murder of a 14-year-old schoolgirl in April of this year spurred the government to organize the proposal.

The controversial law allows for heavier punishment for child sex offenders, including cruel and unusual penalties such as chemical castration for male offenders through female hormone injections and implanting violators with electronic tagging chips under the skin. Other consequences include state-sponsored rehabilitation, mandatory ten-year imprisonment and the death sentence.


Truly frightening when you consider that the are willing to label people sex offenders based on testimony involving magic stones and hidden dungeons beneath the library.

http://indonesiaexpat.biz/featured/tougher-penalties-child-sex-offenders-indonesia/


They're going mental.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:49 am    Post subject: Updates on Neil Bantleman Reply with quote

I saw a Canadian documentary ('The Fifth Estate' )on the unfortunate plight of Neil Bantleman, from B.C.

Any news on him, these days? Tried doing an online search, but nothing came up. Looks like the mother who filed the case wants very big money, in addition to other conditions.

I think this was a travesty, and so does everyone else at the JIS who knew Neil and his wife.

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