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Will Turkish citizenship affect your job?

 
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elliot_spencer



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:25 am    Post subject: Will Turkish citizenship affect your job? Reply with quote

A colleague of mine, has been married to a Turk and living here for 15 years, was telling me he is waiting for his work permit. When I asked him why he hasn't got citizenship after such a long time here he replied, if I get citizenship I won't be able to be employed as a native speaker teacher as Id be a national... he went on to say he wouldn't be able to teach at all because he wouldn't be able to be recognised as a teacher as no degree in education, is this true?
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water rat



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: Will Turkish citizenship affect your job? Reply with quote

elliot_spencer wrote:
A colleague of mine, has been married to a Turk and living here for 15 years, was telling me he is waiting for his work permit. When I asked him why he hasn't got citizenship after such a long time here he replied, if I get citizenship I won't be able to be employed as a native speaker teacher as Id be a national... he went on to say he wouldn't be able to teach at all because he wouldn't be able to be recognised as a teacher as no degree in education, is this true?

I don't know, but I had a similar situation in Indonesia. I was married there, but if I were to become a citizen, employers would have every right to pay me what they pay an Indonesian, i.e., next to nothing. If I understand what you and your friend are saying, a Turkish citizen teaching English is required to have a degree in education. I gather your friend studied some other field in college, and has been trading on his native speaker status all these years. That's all very well for a foreign national, but the law is the law. If he were to legally become Turkish it would not matter that he was born and raised in another country.
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elliot_spencer



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So i guess permanent residency is better.
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delal



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:08 pm    Post subject: YOK Reply with quote

Not sure what the most recent rules are from YOK but yes, overseas teaching qualifications might not be recognized for a denklik
Plus schools-shock, horror- might try and pull a fast one and offer you less money
Residency is prob the best way to go
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could he get citizenship and just use his foreign passport? The reason I ask is that I know people, myself included, who have dual citizenship but still use their foreign passport to work in country.
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delal



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how that would work legally
However, at least two schools boast of foreign teachers to parents but for insurance purposes has them down as office staff and shown as earning the minimum wage.
Just saying...
I'd also be concerned about whether children then automatically have to take Turkish citizenship because of compulsory military service for boys
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Agamemnon



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going by my own personal experience, I would say the benefits outweigh the negative aspects. Although if you are under 40 years of age when you receive citizenship, you may well be expected to complete a short spell of military service. But, yes there is always one of those, you could of course act dumb and give the impression that you do not speak Turkish, "How did you get your citizenship" they may ask, you reply, in the same way you got your driving license!!
There has been no affect on my earnings and generally the schools like the idea as the paperwork for them is minimal!
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JohnRambo



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agamemnon wrote:
Going by my own personal experience, I would say the benefits outweigh the negative aspects. Although if you are under 40 years of age when you receive citizenship, you may well be expected to complete a short spell of military service. But, yes there is always one of those, you could of course act dumb and give the impression that you do not speak Turkish, "How did you get your citizenship" they may ask, you reply, in the same way you got your driving license!!
There has been no affect on my earnings and generally the schools like the idea as the paperwork for them is minimal!


I was told if you work for a university, getting Turkish citizenship could cause you problems. The jobs are already super competitive and hard to get into for the locals.
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