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Dyslexia and foreign languages?

 
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:45 am    Post subject: Dyslexia and foreign languages? Reply with quote

Can anyone point me in the direction of any resources about learners with dyslexia and learning foreign languages? I've got a meeting next week about one particular learner who has just been diagnosed - but I know really next to nothing about the subject.
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NilSatis82



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: Dyslexia and foreign languages? Reply with quote

delphian-domine wrote:
Can anyone point me in the direction of any resources about learners with dyslexia and learning foreign languages? I've got a meeting next week about one particular learner who has just been diagnosed - but I know really next to nothing about the subject.


I don't know anything either but I knew I'd seen something recently about dylexia in ELT. Turns out that a project based in Lodz won a BC innovation award about Dyslexia in TEFL only last week.

http://www.britishcouncil.org/organisation/press/eltons-2014-winners

http://www.dystefl.eu/


I also came across a few other links that might be useful whilst I was looking for that one.

http://oupeltglobalblog.com/2013/09/19/dyslexia-a-problem-or-a-gift/

http://www.hltmag.co.uk/feb11/sart02.htm

http://www.eltwell.co.uk/index.html
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, thank you! It's really appreciated Smile

I'm thinking about opening a specialist MFL dyslexia class in my school (extra-curricular), but despite several colleagues being specialists in dyslexia, not one of them has any experience with it in relation to learning foreign languages. One of them is fortunately fluent in English, so... we'll see.
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught a dyslexic agnostic insomniac a while back. She used to show up for the lessons absolutely exhausted. She had had been up all night the night before wondering if there was a dog.

Sorry, everyone. I have to do a couple of those every year to stay sane.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha!
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Master Shake wrote:
I taught a dyslexic agnostic insomniac a while back. She used to show up for the lessons absolutely exhausted. She had had been up all night the night before wondering if there was a dog.

Sorry, everyone. I have to do a couple of those every year to stay sane.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dyslexia, like ADHD, is an invention of mad psychologists.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too right. An invention to excuse teachers and educators from taking responsibility for their failures...
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Dyslexia, like ADHD, is an invention of mad psychologists.


ADHD - I wouldn't call myself a specialist, but from my observations, you can normally see a distinct correlation between home environment and the presence of the symptoms of ADHD. Quite agreed though that it's an invention to excuse bad child care - be it from teachers or parents. It's interesting how many "ADHD" kids are completely ignored by their parents.

Dyslexia - it's a catch-all term that doesn't do any good for anyone. I've seen quite a few cases where the parents have never bothered to read to/with their children - is it a surprise that they then struggle with reading later?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:44 am    Post subject: Dyspraxia Reply with quote

I did an online special educational needs course a month ago.

There's a new -xia word in town and it's called dyspraxia. It's a 'developmental coordination disorder' and the symptoms are basically being a spacey klutz - constantly forgetting things you need, having terrible penmanship, taking ages to tie your shoes and being crap at sports.

I think it's a catch all for behaviors which didn't fit in with ADHD or dyslexia.

Why can't people just be clumsy dorks anymore?
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ecocks



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least with ADD and ADHD I have always believed the food connection is underestimated. Sugar, starch, soy, tofu, probably even some of the GMO by-products seem to be obvious contributors. Then you consider them in combination with environmental factors at home such as TV- and video-game baby-sitters and changing social standards regarding cultural sensitivity and lowered expectations with regard to behavior and....

We are reaping the "benefits" of chemical additives to the food chain and a sort of insanity of social change under the guise of progressivism.

I got tired of kids acting out and the idiocy of parents alternating between passive-aggressive interatcions with teachers and complete apathy. It screwed up the system, the kids and the learning process.

Dyslexia may be more real. I personally never saw an actual case although a lot of children and a few adults claim it. My opinion was that many use it to cover their ignorance and poor education.
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ecocks wrote:
in combination with environmental factors at home such as TV- and video-game baby-sitters and changing social standards regarding cultural sensitivity and lowered expectations with regard to behavior and....


I am absolutely convinced that ADHD is not an illness in itself, although the symptoms clearly are there. Like you say - TV/video game babysitters seem to be the real scourge. I don't think it's a surprise that the best kids I know are also the ones who spend a lot of time with their parents in general.

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Dyslexia may be more real. I personally never saw an actual case although a lot of children and a few adults claim it. My opinion was that many use it to cover their ignorance and poor education.


I knew one girl who had it - she had some special overlays for the text that made it easier to make sense of the words. The rest? No comment.

Mr Shake, was that course open access? I'd like to do such a thing... Dyspraxia sounds very much to me "kid was dumped in front of the TV/computer".
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is where you can find the course: http://courses.britishcouncil.org/teachertraining/

It's called the SEN (special educational needs) course. There might be a free version available. My school paid for me to do it, but it wasn't that expensive anyway.

The course isn't exactly riveting, but it's definitely more interesting than reading about the problems/disorders on Wikipedia.
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!

I'm very much in the good books with my boss right now, so she should pay up Smile
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