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New teachers thinking of coming to Poland
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:31 pm    Post subject: erm Reply with quote

You need to find a cushy job in a uni. Pay's not much but not many hours, so other work is doable. Also 12 months of the year and a room in digs for a small fee.
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Infinite



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynow wrote:
when you get older, have a wife and children, own a home, priorities change and you make career choices based on a different set of parameters.


So keeps saying the man who has no children...
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Infinite



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great post.... turned to complete waste disposal within seconds.
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Infinite



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ecocks wrote:
sparks wrote:
And the insecure egomaniacs begin to ruin another thread which really has nothing to do with them...


+3

Boy you called this one right out of the gate.


Yea... I think I threw up in my mouth a little after reading the first few replies ... ugh... great call nevertheless
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Infinite



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depechemodefan1966 wrote:


I am still looking for that magic job, where I get 50 an hour, medical insurance and holiday pay, but I don't hold out much hope.


I was just in Warsaw, 60Net is the norm, as per paid holidays and insurance, don't count on it. In big cities getting your foot in the door with some in-company sessions is your best bet. You'll get 100+ per hour. All you need is two reliable corpo clients and some privates.

If you just start your own business and register, you'll be able to call shots and pay for your own benefits. Private healthcare is not really that expensive either. Sometimes you might get lucky. At one point I had an account with Nordea [don't do it... just a warning] but I was able to get medical for a family of four for only 160pln / month as part of the deal.
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dynow



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Infinite wrote:
dynow wrote:
when you get older, have a wife and children, own a home, priorities change and you make career choices based on a different set of parameters.


So keeps saying the man who has no children...


no children?
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depechemodefan1966



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, infinite

Please, what schools did you get 60 zl an hour, plus benefits.

Thank you for any information, plus what you wrote in your post.
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Infinite



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depechemodefan1966 wrote:
Hello, infinite

Please, what schools did you get 60 zl an hour, plus benefits.

Thank you for any information, plus what you wrote in your post.


Sole proprietorship, I pay my own benefits and provide invoices. I never worked for less than that.
As a native, yet being reasonable, you should never charge less than 70pln for privates. I do 80 at this point. With schools, never go below 60 per 60 NET. If you do, you're pretty much getting gypped... big time.
You can actually make a lot more if you form groups. Your students pay less, but you make more, plus specialized courses... etc etc... 1600 per month... I can't even wrap my head around that figure. Even charging 50pln per 60, that's still only 32hrs per month...
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Infinite



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynow wrote:
Infinite wrote:
dynow wrote:
when you get older, have a wife and children, own a home, priorities change and you make career choices based on a different set of parameters.


So keeps saying the man who has no children...


no children?


Got kids? Last time I checked, you had none, not in Poland at least; yet you keep posting about getting older, having children yaddy yadda... I'm good with two, no complaints.
Being a native in Poland opens many doors, you just need to spend less time complaining on message boards and more time actually being a part of the society.
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ecocks



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Infinite wrote:
dynow wrote:
Infinite wrote:
dynow wrote:
when you get older, have a wife and children, own a home, priorities change and you make career choices based on a different set of parameters.


So keeps saying the man who has no children...


no children?


Got kids? Last time I checked, you had none, not in Poland at least; yet you keep posting about getting older, having children yaddy yadda... I'm good with two, no complaints.
Being a native in Poland opens many doors, you just need to spend less time complaining on message boards and more time actually being a part of the society.


That seems to be accurate for those who made it.
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:40 am    Post subject: erm Reply with quote

Try 29,000 PLN a month teaching 20 hours a week.

I'd rather 'make it' that way.
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dynow



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Got kids?


yes.
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depechemodefan1966



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure glad I never had kids when I was living there. A couple of my old colleagues (British) have landed themselves in a bit of a mess with it. They got their girlfriends pregnant and now they are stuck there. They are begging the schools for every hour they can get and now doing the same stuff they said they were not going to do before. They are slaves to the schools, having to do all the crap just to bump their zlotys up. I got an email off one of them the other day saying he's struggling like trapped rat, especially when it comes to the holidays.

In my last year I barely had enough to support myself, never mind a kid and a partner.
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oipivo



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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Location: Poland

PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, it's pretty ridiculous to think that you could raise a child easily on a teacher's pay. I live pretty comfortably here and travel quite often. If you plan to have kids, do it when you've finished your teaching career.
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simon_porter00



Joined: 09 Nov 2005
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Location: Warsaw, Poland

PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eff me for all the bs written on here, this tops it. I've two kids and i'm far from destitute. Christ, there's someone i know who has 4 is the sole earner and had to pay for his house to be reroofed and he's doing well as a teacher.
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