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MotherF · Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:04 am Post subject: how does your income rate?

Wondering how your income rates to the residents of your state?
Animal political made a tool that takes Inegi information.
My husband pointed out it doesn't take into account undeclared income. Which everyone not on a payroll probably has some of.

http://www.animalpolitico.com/2015/06/que-tanto-dinero-ganas-este-interactivo-te-lo-dice/

Phil_K · Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own

"Pertenezco al 5% de la población con más ingresos en México (Sí. En este rango también se encuentra Slim)."

Good to know! But a better tool would be how you rate against the average according to the level of your job.

MotherF · Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:54 pm Post subject:

True, but it's really not about evaluating your job, but actually about class inequality.

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

BadBeagleBad · Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:01 am Post subject:

I am also in the 5% for our household, but there is no way we are upper class, just middle class. It also doesn´t take into consideration the fact that many people own a home already, whether paid for over time, or inherited. In the town I live in many people own a home, and have income in the 8000 to 10,000 range but very much live a middle class lifestyle. And as Guy pointed out, there is still a HUGE divide between a person who earns, say, 25,000 a month, and Carlos SLim. Ridiculous, really, to even say you are in the same category.

MotherF · Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:48 am Post subject:

Really?

The point is not OMG I'm not upper class. The point ought to be as plain as day.

I put in lower and lower salaries until I hit outside of the top 5% for Oaxaca.
The point is 95% of the population makes less than 10,000 a month. To drop to 80% you have to lover it to 8,000 a month.
The point is not the hat well established English teachers are as rich as Slim because that is clearly not true. The point is well established English teachers are richer than 95% of the population.

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

BadBeagleBad · Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:21 am Post subject:

Not to mention the fact that, in a rural area, such as the area I live in, you can live quite well on 8000 a month. Food is very inexpensive, lots of people keep chickens, have fruit trees, nopales/tunas grow all over the place, many people also have a garden, there are no transportation costs to speak of. So while it an interesting exercise, it also doesn´t take into consideration the vastly different cost of living in a large city, or even a mid sized city, and a rural area. Even for the state of Zacatecas, I couldn´t live on what I could here, in say, Zacatecas, which is expensive, compared to the rest of the state, or Fresnillo. And in DF, forget it. Another point is that people with a formal job do at least have benefits, healthcare, INFONOVIT, etc, whereas the huge numbers of people who are self employed don´t have those things inless they know about Seguro Popular and apply for that. But a lot of those people don´t know about it, or are paperless people, so can´t apply, which in actual terms of lifestyle puts them at even more of a disadvantage than someone who has a ¨real¨ job at a similar income level.