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Infinite



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynow wrote:


I showed up, no job, no nothing. Got an apartment, got a job, PESEL, NIP, business bank account, work "promise" from my employer, bank statements showing i had cash to fall back on, a few other random things, and in about 7 months, I had my residency card, done deal. no work permit, no work visa, just me and my luggage.




Ha! How 'bout that. I never thought that the day will come. I have to agree with you 100%. This is still the case. I'm reading this thread not really sure what the problem is.
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sparks



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe I've tried to say the same thing before but people always start going on about work visas and whatnot. Dynow's description reflects my experience exactly, also not sure what the work visa stuff is about.
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparks wrote:
I believe I've tried to say the same thing before but people always start going on about work visas and whatnot. Dynow's description reflects my experience exactly, also not sure what the work visa stuff is about.
You're one of the few luck ones, then. And it's not a work visa, but a work permit. I know loads of people who have had to get one in Warsaw. This is Krakow's immigration site explaining how to get one: http://www.malopolska.uw.gov.pl/default.aspx?page=Work_permit_for_foreigner_work_in_Poland

As for getting your id/passport checked in Poland: During my four years living in Warsaw, I always carried only my Colorado driver's license. I've been stopped by police and ticket controllers a few times, mostly for crossing a red light. They would demand my ID and I just gave them my driver's license. After frowning down befuddled at it for a few seconds, they gave it back and said 'thank you'. End of conversation.

I think if I'd had my karta pobytu on me, they might have given me a ticket. But it was never worth their while to make an issue of my not having the proper ID. I can't imagine them doing it unless you've really f-ed up, or unless you're a minority.
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grzes, it certainly does happen. While most resources are concentrated on the eastern/northern border, there are plenty of stories about people being stopped in the interior and deported as a result. It all depends on who stops you and why. With respects to the "permission to work" - as I understand it, even if you get a residence permit issued, it doesn't mean you're in the clear. You still need the document confirming that you can work from the Urzad Pracy - I don't think a residence permit is a defence in itself.
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Louisdf



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Master Shake wrote:
sparks wrote:
I believe I've tried to say the same thing before but people always start going on about work visas and whatnot. Dynow's description reflects my experience exactly, also not sure what the work visa stuff is about.
You're one of the few luck ones, then. And it's not a work visa, but a work permit. I know loads of people who have had to get one in Warsaw. This is Krakow's immigration site explaining how to get one: http://www.malopolska.uw.gov.pl/default.aspx?page=Work_permit_for_foreigner_work_in_Poland

As for getting your id/passport checked in Poland: During my four years living in Warsaw, I always carried only my Colorado driver's license. I've been stopped by police and ticket controllers a few times, mostly for crossing a red light. They would demand my ID and I just gave them my driver's license. After frowning down befuddled at it for a few seconds, they gave it back and said 'thank you'. End of conversation.

I think if I'd had my karta pobytu on me, they might have given me a ticket. But it was never worth their while to make an issue of my not having the proper ID. I can't imagine them doing it unless you've really f-ed up, or unless you're a minority.

How about when you need to visit the police, for example if you were beaten up on the street or your flat was looted while you were out etc. Then, you will definitely need to show your paperwork!
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louisdf wrote:
How about when you need to visit the police, for example if you were beaten up on the street or your flat was looted while you were out etc. Then, you will definitely need to show your paperwork!
Yes, quite probably. Honestly, I wouldn't expect the police to do too much though, especially if you don't speak Polish.

Anyway, I thought that as far as Poland was concerned, leaving and reentering the country reset your 90-day visa waiver. That is, Poland doesn't apply the '90-in, 90-out' rule.

I know a few people who have lived in Poland for years doing visa runs and seemingly had no problems.
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oipivo



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like mastershake said. My wife and I have been doing this for two years. Admittedly, it's not fun. The border patrol has never once asked questions about my stamps. They do count the days occasionally to make sure I haven't overstayed the 90 day rule, but so long as you're within 90 days it shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't really recommend this route though. You have to really want to live here.
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:31 am    Post subject: erm Reply with quote

I've had 2 run-ins with the police in the past 2 weeks for parking and got stopped randomly twice last year by traffic cops for no reason at all. Best not to drive I'd say.
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simon_porter00



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To justify the 'best not drive comment' i would've preferred to see:
I got pulled by the police twice last week for absolutely no reason. I was parked in a designated parking spot, followed all rules, and there was absolutely no justification for them stopping me.

And

I understand why cops have to do random road side spot checks after all drink driving is a problem in Poland and the state of cars is a disgrace. And let's face it, the police are a bit bent as well, so i'm really unfortunate to have been stopped twice.

In Warsaw, the cops would either have good reason to talk to you about parkin