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theoriginalprankster
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:14 am Post subject: Honestly - BEST Asian country to work in? |
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I worked in Taiwan for three years in the heydays - it was good. Kids mostly, and some privates. Pretty good money for a beginner.
Moved on to China, struggled in the beginning, and made great money in the end, but the air quality drove me out. Gained great experience, and worked for some high quality institutions.
I've looked at all sorts of positions around Asia, and each country has its pros and cons.
For me;
1. Thailand - no. Unless the salary is up around 100000bt.
2. Malaysia - maybe. If the salary is upward of 8000rt.
3. Cambo, Vietnam, Philippines - no. Just no.
I'm not going back to Taiwan or China, because I've been there and done that.
Where are you at, and what makes it good/great/acceptable for you?
And where would you never want to live and teach, and why? |
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bograt
Joined: 12 Nov 2014 Posts: 331
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Worked in Korea and am currently working in Hong Kong. Making more money here but spending a lot more and saving less. HK is a much more interesting place to live and I don't regret coming here but will be heading back to Korea for the bucks before too long. Nowadays it's not a question of where I don't want to live but my wife's and I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be interested in China (pollution) or a developing country |
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theoriginalprankster
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:20 am Post subject: |
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bograt wrote: |
Worked in Korea and am currently working in Hong Kong. Making more money here but spending a lot more and saving less. HK is a much more interesting place to live and I don't regret coming here but will be heading back to Korea for the bucks before too long. Nowadays it's not a question of where I don't want to live but my wife's and I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be interested in China (pollution) or a developing country |
Is the missus Korean?
And do you have a decent job in HK? |
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bograt
Joined: 12 Nov 2014 Posts: 331
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Is the missus Korean?
And do you have a decent job in HK? |
Yes
It's all relative but to get a decent place here costs around 15,000 dollars so you'd want to be earning 30 at the very least to get by. I make just under 50, which sounds a lot but I'm still saving less than I did in Korea |
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likwid_777
Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: NA
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Regarding OP's question... I'm not sure. However, with respect to the rise and fall (?) of Japan and Korea as ESL paradisos, along with the inevitable (?) collapse of China's ESL paradiso status... Where is the next China? Naturally, nowhere in Asia which could ever offer ESLers the scale of opportunity which China has again in our lifetime.
>>No, not India... Doesn't seem to pay teachers, and is not East or South East Asian<<
However, in terms of offering a goldmine of jobs and excitement, what could be the next China? Myanmar, Laos? I think that we've run out of Asia, unfortunately. And unless Western influence has a rather severe renaissance soon, you'd better enjoy the scene for what it is now and over the next decade or so, for it may be on its dying legs. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:01 am Post subject: |
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likwid_777 wrote: |
Regarding OP's question... I'm not sure. However, with respect to the rise and fall (?) of Japan and Korea as ESL paradisos, along with the inevitable (?) collapse of China's ESL paradiso status... Where is the next China? Naturally, nowhere in Asia which could ever offer ESLers the scale of opportunity which China has again in our lifetime.
>>No, not India... Doesn't seem to pay teachers, and is not East or South East Asian<<
However, in terms of offering a goldmine of jobs and excitement, what could be the next China? Myanmar, Laos? I think that we've run out of Asia, unfortunately. And unless Western influence has a rather severe renaissance soon, you'd better enjoy the scene for what it is now and over the next decade or so, for it may be on its dying legs. |
Bangladesh is the up and coming TEFL hot-spot I hear |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Yes, and they pay in SOCKS. |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Maybe you could barter the socks at the market. |
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spiral78
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like two jobs required to support oneself in Bangladesh:-) |
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likwid_777
Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: NA
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:41 am Post subject: |
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In socks? Ouch, you must get quite a few for your troubles. Considering that one can buy a business shirt at K-Mart in Australia for $8 (Made in Bangladesh), socks must be worth **** all. I wonder what the first middle man pays for these fine garments from the factory outlet? We all know that the pay lords up that way have saved a buck or two on fire exit doors in their factories.
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plumpy nut
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Unwilling to work in Thailand unless your salary is 100,000 Baht? That's a bit odd. A huge amount of teachers would gladly work in Thailand for 60,000 Baht and a lot would be fairly happy with 40000 Baht, just to be in Thailand. Sure you can work your way up to 100000 if you work for one of the 4 top tier schools in Bangkok. Hopefully your licensed and have plenty of years teaching K-12 or equivalent where you are a resident.
PS For any grammer nutjobs, I like your better than you're |
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plumpy nut
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:31 am Post subject: |
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likwid_777 wrote: |
In socks? Ouch, you must get quite a few for your troubles. Considering that one can buy a business shirt at K-Mart in Australia for $8 (Made in Bangladesh), socks must be worth **** all. I wonder what the first middle man pays for these fine garments from the factory outlet? We all know that the pay lords up that way have saved a buck or two on fire exit doors in their factories.
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Some of the International Schools in SE Asia and Saudi Arabia might pay with items like that. You would have to ship them over in a container Fortunately there are second hand stores in the US. You might get 20% of retail value. You would have to travel around and find a lot of second hand shops though. |
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likwid_777
Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: NA
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:04 am Post subject: |
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plumpy nut wrote: |
likwid_777 wrote: |
In socks? Ouch, you must get quite a few for your troubles. Considering that one can buy a business shirt at K-Mart in Australia for $8 (Made in Bangladesh), socks must be worth **** all. I wonder what the first middle man pays for these fine garments from the factory outlet? We all know that the pay lords up that way have saved a buck or two on fire exit doors in their factories.
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Some of the International Schools in SE Asia and Saudi Arabia might pay with items like that. You would have to ship them over in a container Fortunately there are second hand stores in the US. You might get 20% of retail value. You would have to travel around and find a lot of second hand shops though. |
Haha, yeah, you might be selling them to second hand shops if they are from the KSA or SEA. If they are from Bangladesh though, I think they'd be brand spankin', as most people seem to be getting around there in bare feet or sandals. The Bangladeshis only wear socks with their sandals whilst on holidays with their ESL teacher mates, in order to fit in hehehe. |
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EFL Educator
Joined: 17 Jul 2013 Posts: 988 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:12 am Post subject: |
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To The OP,
The best ASEAN country to work in nowadays is Malaysia....for many reasons. |
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Tazz
Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Posts: 512 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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And the reasons are....? |
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