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TEFL teacher working conditions in Spain
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richardavie



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:54 am    Post subject: TEFL teacher working conditions in Spain Reply with quote

Hello Everyone,

I'm conducting a very quick survey to get a snapshot of the working conditions for TEFL teachers in Spain. The aim is to build up an accurate picture of TEFL teacher salaries from country to country.

The survey is completely anonymous, contains two very simple questions and will take about 30 seconds to complete.

http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1888532/TEFL-teacher-work-conditions-in-Spain

I'd be forever grateful if you took a moment to complete it, many thanks in advance!

Richard
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, it is not possible to 'build up an accurate picture of TEFL teacher salaries' by country. They are entirely dependent on qualifications and experience, and usually by how long one has been in a country. If you limit the survey to, for example:

in your first year in Spain with a new CELTA and no prior teaching experience, what was your salary (and do the same for all other countries) you will get something useful.

As it is, your survey just looks silly.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're not, by chance, doing research for a graduate program are you?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully not - I have worked with grad students for a decade now and the survey here would by no means pass muster for actual research, I'm afraid.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
Hopefully not - I have worked with grad students for a decade now and the survey here would by no means pass muster for actual research, I'm afraid.


No, it clearly wouldn't. I doubt it would even pass muster for a Gallup poll. I was just wondering if the OP was our good friend Arqueille returning under a new username.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=108729&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, possibly. Regardless, the OP seems to post his link and then disappear without bothering to return to address posts on his threads. Would be very curious if he's getting many/any responses on this. I think it's doubtful. And the poll could be adjusted to elicit actual useful results if focused better on some segment of teachers.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the very least, he could--as a poster on another one of his threads suggested--make his survey look a little more professional by cleaning up the grammar and getting rid of the sentence fragments.

But, then again, maybe I'm just grading too many end-of-the-semester student essays right now.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on the countries he's targeted, I suspect it's a personal survey---he's checking to see what he could make for X amount of hours.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Based on the countries he's targeted, I suspect it's a personal survey---he's checking to see what he could make for X amount of hours.


Makes sense.
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RustyShackleford



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll answer OP's unspoken question then:

Come to Spain for the wine, the weather and the women (or men, depending on your orientation, they're both fine).

Don't come for the money, or the food.
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jonniboy



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RustyShackleford wrote:
I'll answer OP's unspoken question then:

Come to Spain for the wine, the weather and the women (or men, depending on your orientation, they're both fine).

Don't come for the money, or the food.


What on earth's wrong with the food? It's one of the biggest positives of the place. Cheap, good quality and much more varied than Italian food.

In contrast, I found the wine and women a bit one dimensional.If you live dark haired brown eyed girls fine, but if you want more variety.... Wink
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RustyShackleford



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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compared to Japan and Vietnam the food is utter dogshite. No spice, too oily, completely bland in all aspects. That doesn't begin to tell you how much I can't stand the food here. At least in Japan and Vietnam you can always count on some place having an affordable Western or Indian food if the local stuff thin. Here the "Chinese" is even worse than the local stuff and a five dollar curry there runs me three times that. I'll be dancing my way out it here when done just so I can get some actual flavor in my mouth that doesn't come from my own skills.

And the women in Madrid I find a pleasant variety in terms of hair and eye color - light eyes/dark hair vice versa and everything between. I think if you've ever lived in Asia you'd understand.
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 4:25 pm    Post subject: Spanish cuisine Reply with quote

One man's meat...

Eating out in Spain can be difficult for vegetarians, as the concept of vegetarianism is alien to the Spanish psyche.

Nevertheless, I enjoyed my time in Spain (despite the low wages), and found the Spanish to be very pleasant on the whole. I'd definitely say they have more joie de vivre than the French.
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jonniboy



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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RustyShackleford wrote:
And the women in Madrid I find a pleasant variety in terms of hair and eye color - light eyes/dark hair vice versa and everything between. I think if you've ever lived in Asia you'd understand.


I have lived in Asia and I don't understand. Kazakhstan had far more variety in terms of the fair sex than Spain. Also, unlike the lasses further east, the Spanish ones don't take care of themselves very well. Jeans, t-shirts and trainers. Meh.

Yep, Spain isn't the place for spicy food, but they have some of the best ham in the world, the paella and rice dishes on the east coast are excellent and some of the mediterranean fusion places do some great dishes. Different horses for different courses

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 11:01 am    Post subject: Food for thought Reply with quote

Quote:
Different horses for different courses


No, it's the French who are partial to equine meat. Wink
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