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Shanghai Noon · Joined: 18 Aug 2013 Posts: 589 Location: Shanghai, China

They don't usually tell you the reason because they don't want you to use it against them. I got fired from one international school because of student enrollment, and I got a settlement for that one. The other international school didn't tell me, but they implied that it was because I didn't fudge grades. As for the training center, I really don't know, but it's very easy to get fired from one. I'm not complaining. After every firing, I got a much better position.

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Deats · Joined: 02 Jan 2015 Posts: 503

Fired from 5 jobs in China? Wow. You must be utterly incompetent. If I ever got fired from 1 I would hang my head in shame. But 5!!! Impressive.

I can't even imagine what kind of EFL teacher you must be....

It's also a sad reflection that in China you can be given a 6th chance Sad

Makes the rest of us look bad.

Shanghai Noon · Joined: 18 Aug 2013 Posts: 589 Location: Shanghai, China

Deats, you clearly didn't read any of my posts except for the first sentence. I have been fired from three jobs, not five. I am on my fifth one. One would be termed a layoff in our respective home countries, but in Chinese work culture there is no real difference between the two. Another one was because (it was implied) I refused to fudge grades. For one job, I don't know why I got fired but it was a training center and they tend to cycle through a lot of employees. One job I actually did quit. If that makes me incompetent, then so be it. Two of the companies that fired me actually got rid of all their foreign teachers within the year, so I actually dodged a major bullet both times.

Deats · Joined: 02 Jan 2015 Posts: 503

Once maybe bad luck... twice, well... thrice... hmm

There seems to be a pattern.

Maybe in a western country I could understand this more, but it takes a hell of a lot to lose your job in China.

So to be on to your 5th job is quite something.

Angel.Ro · Joined: 09 May 2015 Posts: 59

Shanghai Noon · Joined: 18 Aug 2013 Posts: 589 Location: Shanghai, China

I agree. It is quite something. It definitely makes for an interesting resume. I don't agree that it takes a lot to lose your job. I have always worked in private schools where popularity comes into consideration, expecially at a training center in Shanghai where parents can very easily take their money elsewhere. This is why I don't work at training centers anymore.

AKChina · Joined: 29 Apr 2015 Posts: 52

Surely this is just a case of where the customer (client) is always right. If your employer wants to to fudge the grades, just shut up and do it. You're still getting paid at the end of the month, just do as you're told.

Shanghai Noon · Joined: 18 Aug 2013 Posts: 589 Location: Shanghai, China

First of all, I got paid on the 10th of each month, which is not the end by any stretch of the imagination. Second, I was never "told" to fudge grades. I said in a previous post that it was implied in the meeting. They wouldn't tell you that explicitely because you could use it against them. Third, if I got fired for that reason, then it's a good thing. I'd rather be fired for doing the right thing than be kept on for doing wrong, especially when it's that wrong. If my employer wants fudged grades, they can teach the class themselves. I will have no part in it.

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asiannationmc · Joined: 13 Aug 2014 Posts: 1342

I have failed plenty of student in a British franchise program over the years and it seems, at the end of the year, upon academic review by the Chinese University and by the Franchised British University, they somehow always get to go.