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capricious



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: ALTA Egitim - Istanbul Reply with quote

Does anyone have any information on this institution?
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CECTPA



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they specialize in one-week courses that purport to teach English in 5 days, or improve your level measurably in one week if you already have some English. The web site is www.5gundeingilizce.com (not a word of ingilizce, but maybe you read turkce)
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jamessmart50



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think these guys were in the Turkish Daily News the other day, speak fluent English in five days using unique methodology discovered by the owner of the school (namely, no speaking Turkish in class). Sounds dodge central to me!
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CECTPA



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Turkish in class? Who'da thunk it? Truly a revolutionary method.
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justme



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they fianlly perfected that method students want so bad where you inject the English directly into their brains with a big needle. And for the ones who are scared of big needles, you can feed it to them with a spoon in pablum form.
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Golightly



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's English for those traders on the outskirts of Sultanahmet - all they learn is 'Hello my friend, have nice cay, very good, oran juice chicken and chips naiicee, pretty woman hey I love you why you not talk me?'
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What we need is a method that will get those who are not literate in their mother tongue a score of 600 (old style) on TOEFL within 5 days.

Why is that those who have never read a book in their first language think they are capable of academic work in a second language ?
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I just went for an observation there, and I'll start teaching next week. The place seems cool. Small classes, relaxed atmosphere. It's 9 hours a day full on, but for a lot of that time the students are either doing vocabulary exercises, or you're all sitting around the table eating Happy Moon burgers or drinking wine.

And the system - well, it actually does work, depending on what your goal is. ALTA doesn't lie to the students and tell them they'll be fluent after 5 days. Instead, they learn as much as they can about the students - their job, lifestyle, why they want to learn English, what their current level is, etc. - and design a sort of custom week of lessons that is most suitable for what the students need. They also guarantee a certain amount of progress, represented by skills based scores, and if the students don't reach their target, they can repeat for free.

It's all communicative - there're no books or grammar exercises, though the teacher can bring in their own materials if they'd like. The whole system is really about repetition of phrases and then using them in role plays or activities. Through those phrases, they learn grammar intuitively.

I've seen it - it does work - but again it depends what the student wants. I doubt the system could help them prepare for the TOEFL, but it's pretty ideal for helping them attend a conference or travel abroad.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I love about Turks is there hopeless optimism and gullibliity when it comes to learn English in a week or "8 gunde 0 zorlukla 4 kilo" lose lots of weight in 8 days schemes.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goodness Thrifty, you've been quiet for a while.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am back with a vengance.

Last edited by thrifty on Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:03 am; edited 1 time in total
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah go on! Ah go on! Ah go on! (etc)

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Golightly



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want some chips! Come on over here Thifty!
http://eltworld.net/forums
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restlesstraveler2



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also read the article about this man FIRAT and looked up the internet site and then proceeded to call the school. I was lucky to even talk to the owner who told me a bit about what COFFEESPOONMAN has already said>
= classes from 9 - 6 (Mon - Fri)
- face-to-face interview initially followed by 2 days of observations
- if accepted then one week of class teaching, but you get paid for
the week..........at the end of the week
- PAY of 750 YTL for about 45 hours of work, ok.....let's say 40 minus
lunch and breaks is not a lot of money
- no additional benefits!
- employment is based on the evaluation of the students at the end of the
wk. They like you and they feel they have improved, you get to
continue bec after all you are a kind of PR for the company.
- SUGGESTOPEDIA does work, but it is again the question for HOW LONG.
- there is no assistance for accommodation, so you basically have to
wing it for two weeks for the initial process and then it is not sure
if you get employment every week as well.

Sounds good and if you are in IST and already settled or can live in a shoebox waiting.......then great. Not for me, esp those hours at that kind of money.


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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, just to clarify... There are NO breaks. You take your breaks with your students in the room. However, on the upside, a great Turkish breakfast and lunch from Happy Moon is provided everyday, as well as all the coffee and candy bars you can consume.

But really, it's not bad at all. It IS a long day, but for me, it seems like a good job. I've been at a private uni for the last year, and I hated it. It feels so much better to be in a classroom all day, actually teaching motivated adults, albeit for a slew of hours. And it sure beats a dersane for hours and salary. I do wish they had private insurance though. But anyways, I'm happy for now (we'll see in a few weeks).
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