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Deats
Joined: 02 Jan 2015 Posts: 503
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:27 am Post subject: Health certificate for your visa |
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In your experience, have you ever:
1) Had to send a health certificate to your job for them to apply for your invitation?
2) Or have you needed a copy for the embassy to apply for the Z visa?
3) Neither of the above.
I have never needed to do either 1 or 2, I have always just needed a health check once I arrived in China. I'm interested as to what would be seen as 'the norm'.
What have your experiences with the process been? |
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bestteacher2012
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 160
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I would say number one is the norm, most places require a medical in order to apply for the invitation letter and work permit. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Number 2 is my experience, though it was sent to the consulate, not the embassy. I work for public universities. |
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buravirgil
Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Posts: 967 Location: Jiangxi Province, China
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Number 2 |
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Dan123
Joined: 08 Jan 2014 Posts: 112
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm on my second job (first was in a training school, second is in a university), and I only did a medical check after I arrived. In fact, I even started working both times before going to the hospital. |
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GreatApe
Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 582 Location: South of Heaven and East of Nowhere
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:23 am Post subject: |
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I've had to have a medical check every time I've renewed my Z visa/RP.
I have an appointment on Monday to do so again. Signing on for 2 more years in the glorious PRC, dependent on the med. check, of course.
--GA |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:49 am Post subject: |
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GreatApe wrote: |
I've had to have a medical check every time I've renewed my Z visa/RP.
I have an appointment on Monday to do so again. Signing on for 2 more years in the glorious PRC, dependent on the med. check, of course.
--GA |
Strange, haven't had one for 5 years (been here 7). Guess location matters. |
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GreatApe
Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 582 Location: South of Heaven and East of Nowhere
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:14 am Post subject: |
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wangdaning wrote:
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Strange, haven't had one for 5 years (been here 7). Guess location matters. |
Location perhaps, and along with age, you're probably right.
I'm in Guangdong and quickly approaching 50. I've had to do medical checks for Z visa/RP renewal 4 of the 5.5 years that I've lived in China. No problems, really ... just the "hassle" of going through the motions.
--GA |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:56 am Post subject: |
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GreatApe wrote: |
wangdaning wrote:
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Strange, haven't had one for 5 years (been here 7). Guess location matters. |
Location perhaps, and along with age, you're probably right.
I'm in Guangdong and quickly approaching 50. I've had to do medical checks for Z visa/RP renewal 4 of the 5.5 years that I've lived in China. No problems, really ... just the "hassle" of going through the motions.
--GA |
You should at least ask not to be xrayed. |
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Listerine
Joined: 15 Jun 2014 Posts: 340
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Being China there is no "norm".
I don't think it's a *legal* requirement anywhere in the PRC to have the school require a medical check in advance before they begin processing your visa. Many schools however will require it before they outlay the $ to apply for your paperwork just in case you have cooties and your Z visa can't be converted to a residence permit
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I applied for my Z visa in Bangkok and the embassy DEFINITELY required a recent copy of a medical check issued in country. Not all embassies / consulates will though.
Once you arrive in China an additional medical check is more or less guaranteed to be needed.
Talk to the school, contact your local Chinese embassy. I think whatever info you get here will be a little unreliable / varied. |
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Deats
Joined: 02 Jan 2015 Posts: 503
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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What you say is true Listerine. There is clearly no 1 given way. This topic is really interesting though to get a general gist of things.
I actually had the most ridiculous thing happen this week, when my uni started demanding a health certificate - 10 weeks after I was given the job. WTF is all that about?
In the end they said I needed to go to a hospital and get a medical check. I asked what checks. They said to show I was healthy. Again, I asked what checks, as what is the definition of 'healthy'? I got the same dumb reply. So I went to the GP, they tested my heart rate, blood pressure, used a stethoscope and then wrote on letter headed paper my name, date of birth, stamped it and literally wrote 'Healthy'. And that's it. WTF I say again. Obviously they openly said I would need another test when I arrived. What a waste of time and money.
This is for Guangdong
In Heilongjiang I needed nothing before I arrived BUT I needed a test EVERY year, like GreatApe, to get my new permit.
I'm curious as to whether there is a rule for each province, or each school makes up their own rule? Or is it the bureau who issue the invitations that want this? |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:46 am Post subject: |
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When I was here at first the school shafted me by just making me teach on an L visa. Something the owner who I met in the states said would not happen. I left after a month or so and found the job I have been with for years. They sent me to HK to get my visa and no medical was required. I did a medical when I got back and the second year also, but since then no medicals for me. I have to say, in general, Chinese bureaucracy has been nice to me. |
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Unrung School Bell
Joined: 13 May 2015 Posts: 43
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Here's a thing to consider. These physical exams are very non-evasive and are given over about 20 minutes time by several doctors or medical-pseudo professionals that give not a toss what the results are. They barely pay attention as they examine you.
The school pays for it, a person from the school fills out the forms and speaks Chinese for you, if you cannot, and she may even by you a lollipop afterwards.
So what is the difficulty in getting an exam? The only thing that can go wrong is that you really are sick in some way - possibly in a way you did not know about. If that's the case you have a larger problem than a possible waste of an hour's time and a bit of money. It may even be fortunate that your medical problem has come to your attention earlier than it would have done. |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Unrung School Bell wrote: |
Here's a thing to consider. These physical exams are very non-evasive and are given over about 20 minutes time by several doctors or medical-pseudo professionals that give not a toss what the results are. They barely pay attention as they examine you.
The school pays for it, a person from the school fills out the forms and speaks Chinese for you, if you cannot, and she may even by you a lollipop afterwards.
So what is the difficulty in getting an exam? The only thing that can go wrong is that you really are sick in some way - possibly in a way you did not know about. If that's the case you have a larger problem than a possible waste of an hour's time and a bit of money. It may even be fortunate that your medical problem has come to your attention earlier than it would have done. |
So, yearly xrays are healthy? |
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:37 am Post subject: |
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wangdaning wrote: |
Unrung School Bell wrote: |
Here's a thing to consider. These physical exams are very non-evasive and are given over about 20 minutes time by several doctors or medical-pseudo professionals that give not a toss what the results are. They barely pay attention as they examine you.
The school pays for it, a person from the school fills out the forms and speaks Chinese for you, if you cannot, and she may even by you a lollipop afterwards.
So what is the difficulty in getting an exam? The only thing that can go wrong is that you really are sick in some way - possibly in a way you did not know about. If that's the case you have a larger problem than a possible waste of an hour's time and a bit of money. It may even be fortunate that your medical problem has come to your attention earlier than it would have done. |
So, yearly xrays are healthy? |
This hardly seems like the forum to debate this topic, but let's do it anyway. There are patients in hospitals who get xrayed a lot more frequently than once a year and they survive. We get radiation from many sources every day of our lives and hardly notice it. All those people suntanning at the beach every day in summer are probably causing more harm to their bodies than an annual xray. Given the condition of the bodies of some of the foreign teachers I've seen meadnering around an annual x-ray is the least of their worries.
Unrung School Bell wrote: |
So what is the difficulty in getting an exam? The only thing that can go wrong is that you really are sick in some way - possibly in a way you did not know about. If that's the case you have a larger problem than a possible waste of an hour's time and a bit of money. It may even be fortunate that your medical problem has come to your attention earlier than it would have done. |
Some people probably don't want to know the truth about their health.
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