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Humanity Lost · Joined: 14 Jan 2017 Posts: 2

Avoid this school at all cost.

BETTER MAN · Joined: 18 Feb 2017 Posts: 2 Location: USA

Im really surprised from some of the negative posts about L4L School in Abha im new teacher in this company and i have been here for 4 months i didn't see any negative point about them they are professional and providing the same what it is in our contract but i heard that some old female teachers who breaking the lows of the country and they did a lot of mess for the company because of that they fired them and the company doing good and has the best reputation so i felt it is important for me to write the truth and be professional . thanks all

Foo_Fighters_Dave · Joined: 09 Dec 2016 Posts: 162

Im really surprised from some of the negative posts about L4L School in Abha im new teacher in this company and i have been here for 4 months i didn't see any negative point about them they are professional and providing the same what it is in our contract but i heard that some old female teachers who breaking the lows of the country and they did a lot of mess for the company because of that they fired them and the company doing good and has the best reputation so i felt it is important for me to write the truth and be professional . thanks all

I see four or five mistakes in what you wrote. Are you the boss who the thread was talking about?

babur · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:36 pm Post subject:

Better Man,
What's your IELTS score?

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

One can only hope that isn't an English teacher with the grammar issues.

Apparently not a clue about what an actual sentence is so I would guess this is written by an Arabic speaker.

I would also guess management... and the referenced boss. LOL

VS

Lord T · Joined: 07 Jul 2015 Posts: 285

BetterMan and his fellow non-native speakers from low-wage economies are the future of ESL in Saudi Arabia.

BETTER MAN · Joined: 18 Feb 2017 Posts: 2 Location: USA

ridiculous to see people like you who think like that im not here to defense the company or the boss im here just to say the truth . just grow guys and learn how to live and deal professionally before you travel abroad .

nomad soul · Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world

Humanity Lost · Joined: 14 Jan 2017 Posts: 2

The owner needs to fire the academic director straight away. He's a drama queen with an inferiority complex who runs the school like a personal high school clique. He runs through so many employees that it is ridiculous. I frankly do not understand how they keep up with the recruitment costs. There comes a point where you must stop blaming the teaching staff and look at the root cause.
The foreign staff, who repeatedly told the American staff they hated Americans, showed extreme favoritism to those whose nationalities they preferred. They frequently picked on staff members for sport. They would isolate them, load them up with work, scream at them in vulgar manners and equally foul language, and seemed to very much enjoy it. They also were vindictive against any staff member who they deemed "against" them in freakish paranoia and punished their students in the process.
Also, their curriculum was easy to teach but had the wrong setup as the persons who designed it were either lazy or did not have the proper training in ESL. Just because you speak English does not mean you should teach it. Just following a book, pushing students through levels who should have never moved up in the first, basing everything off a stupid test that rarely had anything to do with the objectives, and rushing through a curriculum does not make an English school. It just makes an imitation one.

TheOpalOwl · Joined: 13 Nov 2013 Posts: 1 Location: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

On behalf of the current male teachers (4 of us), I would like to inform prospective teachers that L4L has made a drastic change. The academic manager, who was the source of almost all of the problems, has been fired. We have weathered the storm and this long awaited day has finally arrived.

There is now a new academic manager who is professional, respectful, and competent. Together with the female staff, we are helping to usher in a new era at L4L and all of us feel positive about the changes to come.

Abha itself is a great city to live in. Perhaps the best weather in the Kingdom, hiking in the nearby mountains, a short drive to beaches, and a 1hr flight to Jeddah if you need the amenities of a big city.

If anyone has questions or concerns, I would be happy to answer them in the public forum or in a PM.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

First Post ? Singing the praises of an employer criticised by others ? Excuse me but all those years in the region made me a cynic.

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Lord T · Joined: 07 Jul 2015 Posts: 285

It's that time of year again. The time when the incompetent managers and greedy agents assess the situation and conclude that they are in deep trouble.

The agents can no longer attract teachers because they offer miserable salaries, and the managers realize that the shortages mean the college can't function unless the teachers already there take on longer hours and larger class sizes.

It's going to be another tough year in the desert!

siologen · Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336