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nichtta
Joined: 25 Apr 2015 Posts: 110 Location: Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:34 am Post subject: Now impossible to come as a "tourist?" |
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Hi everyone,
I'm running into a huge issue while trying to help a friend, who just moved here. It seems it has become impossible now for someone to live here on a "tourist" residence permit since banks don't offer accounts for those without already existing residence permits, i.e., only if you have a work or student visa before coming to Turkey can you stay longer than your tourist visa time period (90 days within a 180-day period). That means the route many people used to take to first come here doesn't work anymore. Why? Because you need a bank account to show you have $6,000 USD ever since the government stopped accepting currency exchange slips.
Normally, the go-to bank for foreigners has been Kuveyt Türk. It has no fees or a minimum balance, and opening an account just required a passport and tax number. To my knowledge (and from my experience), other banks simply don't open an account for a non-resident. Last year, KT began to put restrictions specifically on Syrian citizens; you can only imagine how many accounts were opened after the influx of over two million of them. Now, a guy working in the personal banking section told me that a corporate-level decision was made in the past couple of months to stop opening bank accounts for all foreigners. He even showed me his screen where he punched in my friend's tax number, and the system wouldn't accept it. It now only accepts numbers starting with 9, such as Turkish ID Numbers or Foreigner (Resident Permit) ID Numbers.
I really hope I'm wrong about this one, which is why I'm writing to you all to hear about alternative banks or different experiences, granted they're recent (within the past few weeks). It seems it's just another sign of Turkey making it more difficult on foreigners to move here... |
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EFL Educator
Joined: 17 Jul 2013 Posts: 988 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:56 am Post subject: |
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This comes as NO surprise....REASONS ARE OBVIOUS! |
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Richard62
Joined: 08 Aug 2011 Posts: 38
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Things may have changed very recently, but I know for a fact that Bank Asya has always allowed non-residents to open bank accounts without a residence permit. All they ask is your passport, and your address back at home. It's not the best bank out there, and they don't have many ATM machines, but if you need to open a bank account in order to obtain a residence permit, I'd say give it a shot. |
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nichtta
Joined: 25 Apr 2015 Posts: 110 Location: Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Richard62 wrote: |
Things may have changed very recently, but I know for a fact that Bank Asya has always allowed non-residents to open bank accounts without a residence permit. All they ask is your passport, and your address back at home. It's not the best bank out there, and they don't have many ATM machines, but if you need to open a bank account in order to obtain a residence permit, I'd say give it a shot. |
Thanks for the suggestion! I'm going to try tomorrow and will post my updates here. |
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JohnRambo
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 183
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Now impossible to come as a "tourist?" |
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nichtta wrote: |
Hi everyone,
I'm running into a huge issue while trying to help a friend, who just moved here. It seems it has become impossible now for someone to live here on a "tourist" residence permit since banks don't offer accounts for those without already existing residence permits, i.e., only if you have a work or student visa before coming to Turkey can you stay longer than your tourist visa time period (90 days within a 180-day period). That means the route many people used to take to first come here doesn't work anymore. Why? Because you need a bank account to show you have $6,000 USD ever since the government stopped accepting currency exchange slips.
Normally, the go-to bank for foreigners has been Kuveyt Türk. It has no fees or a minimum balance, and opening an account just required a passport and tax number. To my knowledge (and from my experience), other banks simply don't open an account for a non-resident. Last year, KT began to put restrictions specifically on Syrian citizens; you can only imagine how many accounts were opened after the influx of over two million of them. Now, a guy working in the personal banking section told me that a corporate-level decision was made in the past couple of months to stop opening bank accounts for all foreigners. He even showed me his screen where he punched in my friend's tax number, and the system wouldn't accept it. It now only accepts numbers starting with 9, such as Turkish ID Numbers or Foreigner (Resident Permit) ID Numbers.
I really hope I'm wrong about this one, which is why I'm writing to you all to hear about alternative banks or different experiences, granted they're recent (within the past few weeks). It seems it's just another sign of Turkey making it more difficult on foreigners to move here... |
Yes, the government is changing things from what I understand. They want you to have some kind of other visa before entering. It's hard to understand how things work over here, of course. |
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ryanlogic
Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Posts: 102 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Many people working in the humanitarian sector around the Syrian border are unfortunately forced to get tourist visas bacause Turkey doesn't have a system for approving work visas for organizations who do not have 5 Turkish employees working for each expat... Inspite of the fact that they are greatly supporting the local economies by bringing in millions of dollars of humanitarian funds from outside the country and using it to purchase and manufacture humanitarian resources within Turkey.
Anyway, from where I sit the only kind of visa that you CAN actually get with out bribing people or having some important friends to drink tea with is a tourist visa.
In that regard, I can confirm as of this week that many people here are regularly opening bank accounts, applying for and receiving residence permits. |
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nichtta
Joined: 25 Apr 2015 Posts: 110 Location: Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:39 am Post subject: |
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ryanlogic wrote: |
In that regard, I can confirm as of this week that many people here are regularly opening bank accounts, applying for and receiving residence permits. |
Are they opening bank accounts with only a foreign passport and tax number, i.e., without having residence permits? If so, can you please provide some bank names? If they already have a residence permit (touristic or otherwise) before opening a bank account then that's normal and can be done with pretty much any bank to my knowledge. Also, the situation might be different in your county since you're closer to the Syrian border meaning more foreigners in the area. Regardless, please do respond when you get a chance.
nichtta wrote: |
Richard62 wrote: |
Things may have changed very recently, but I know for a fact that Bank Asya has always allowed non-residents to open bank accounts without a residence permit. All they ask is your passport, and your address back at home. It's not the best bank out there, and they don't have many ATM machines, but if you need to open a bank account in order to obtain a residence permit, I'd say give it a shot. |
Thanks for the suggestion! I'm going to try tomorrow and will post my updates here. |
Sorry for not getting back to the forums about this earlier. The whole controversy surrounding Bank Asya being affiliated with Gülen then being acquired by the Turkish government in May of this year has made my friend uneasy about opening an account there, so I'm still open to other suggestions. |
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ryanlogic
Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Posts: 102 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Ziraat Bank for sure... Passport and tax number only.
I'm told that some people won't know how to do it... Bring an insistent Turk and politely refuse to leave until they get it done. |
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johnjengizholden
Joined: 10 Dec 2015 Posts: 4 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Now impossible to come as a "tourist?" |
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nichtta wrote: |
Hi everyone,
I'm running into a huge issue while trying to help a friend, who just moved here. It seems it has become impossible now for someone to live here on a "tourist" residence permit since banks don't offer accounts for those without already existing residence permits, i.e., only if you have a work or student visa before coming to Turkey can you stay longer than your tourist visa time period (90 days within a 180-day period). That means the route many people used to take to first come here doesn't work anymore. Why? Because you need a bank account to show you have $6,000 USD ever since the government stopped accepting currency exchange slips.
Normally, the go-to bank for foreigners has been Kuveyt Türk. It has no fees or a minimum balance, and opening an account just required a passport and tax number. To my knowledge (and from my experience), other banks simply don't open an account for a non-resident. Last year, KT began to put restrictions specifically on Syrian citizens; you can only imagine how many accounts were opened after the influx of over two million of them. Now, a guy working in the personal banking section told me that a corporate-level decision was made in the past couple of months to stop opening bank accounts for all foreigners. He even showed me his screen where he punched in my friend's tax number, and the system wouldn't accept it. It now only accepts numbers starting with 9, such as Turkish ID Numbers or Foreigner (Resident Permit) ID Numbers.
I really hope I'm wrong about this one, which is why I'm writing to you all to hear about alternative banks or different experiences, granted they're recent (within the past few weeks). It seems it's just another sign of Turkey making it more difficult on foreigners to move here... |
The best thing to do do is go on to the HSBC website in your country, you can open a bank account in Turkey while you are in your home country before moving to Turkey ( or any country where HSBC have banks) it costa about 50 pounds |
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