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carlos-england · Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:32 pm Post subject:

This post is very interesting but it misses
the point totally, all women are hard work!
just tell me the nationality of woman where
everything is hunky dory and I will give you some
pills to make it all better.

Sure Russian women have some mad ideas when
it comes to courtship, but they are no better or worse
than any other nationality, one thing they have in their
favour is that most devs are slim and therefore could be
considered more attractive than their counterparts overseas.
(like the North of England for example!)

I'm as horrified as anyone else by the likes of Winston
who crows about the 'traditional' values of Russian women
but attempts to have sex with them as soon as he could.
But how is the guy who wants to marry a nice Russian
girl and attempt to learn the language and live and work
in Russia the same as Winston? Winston was a unsuccesful
sex tourist with a chip on his shoulder
about being Asian, not like our original
poster who seems to have some healthy ideas about courtship
and is willing to accomodate his future spouse, I wish him the best
of luck and I'm sure he will find what he wants if he believes
in himself.

bobs12 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 310 Location: Saint Petersburg

This post is also interesting, but also misses the point entirely. Good to have such a deep and thoughtful insight into the situation though, well done. It's not as easy as it sounds, or have you already been there and done that?

carlos-england · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:05 pm Post subject:

Yeah I have actually, there is a lot of crap
posted on here designed for some reason
to scare people away, if someone wants to come
to Russia to meet a nice woman and is a good
ESL teacher, then so what? it is not like you
are overflowing with good (or bad) ESL teachers in Russia
at the moment, are you?

Yes, you are right, there are some Russian women
you should steer clear from but the same can be said
of some British/Madagascan/Fijian/Icelandic women.

All the crap on here about Russian women being mentally
scarred because of alcoholic parents and therefore unable
to sustain any kind of relationship with a westerner is not
worth responding to.

jpvanderwerf2001 · Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York

The Ukrainian women I have dated are intelligent, beautiful and alluring; oh! and possessive, jealous and moody.
The American women I have dated are intelligent, beautiful and alluring; oh! and possessive, jealous and moody.
The Mexican women...

bobs12 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 310 Location: Saint Petersburg

We all thank you from the bottom of our livers for sharing with us your vast and fascinating experience of British/Madagascan/Fijian/Icelandic women. What with my experience of women being strictly limited to American, British, Finnish, German, Slovenian, Swedish and one or two others whose names I can't remember, never mind their nationalities, I fear that I must bow to your superior geographical knowledge of where to find the fairer sex.

What was your longest relationship in Russia with a Russian woman? Did you marry and live with women from all the nationalities you know so much about? Do you drink beer with curry, or only on Sundays?

This isn't really a place for showing off the number of notches on your bedknob (anyone remember bedknobs and broomsticks?) Come to Russia looking for women and it's bound to get a bit more notchy (and knobbly and warty, if you notch it up in the wrong company) but I think we're all adult enough here to refrain from crowing about the geographical scope of our conquests. A weekend in Ibiza and you'll come back with more knobbles than Mick Jagger. By the sounds of things, try it in Russia and you'll get the lips to match.

jpvanderwerf2001 · Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York

bobs,
Was the comment about notches on bed posts directed towards me? I was just saying that I've found women everywhere to be pretty much the same.

bobs12 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 310 Location: Saint Petersburg

Oh, sorry, no- it was for the other bloke, there was no reference to you there. Should have made that clearer since my post came right after yours, apologies if you thought any of that was aimed in your direction. Embarassed

carlos-england · Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject:

Bobs12, you are one arrogant arse, aren't you?

It is good to see that you will remain the cultural and
moral vanguard of the EFL industry in Russia, but who cares
what you think? you are just some two bob joe on an internet
forum, but I would like to ask you if you such a moral crusader why are you not in some African village teaching the kids there English?

As for my superior general knowledge on the opposite sex then you should
bow to it, thank you for recognizing this, I had a relationship with a
beautiful Russian girl for two years, she lived in Izmaylovsky in South
eastern Moscow and she had all her upper teeth! which blows away
another crappy myth on this thread. Obviously I didn't marry and
live with all the women I knew, but I knew them as well as anyone else
could have done.

As for the point made about the mental state of Russian women in
general, then if you don't see the awful derogatory remarks made
about Russian women in this thread then get your eyes tested! I
couldn't pick out one because there are so many. But go back and
read them yourself.

What does 'meet a nice woman' mean? what do you think? who
knows how relationships between two individuals pan out, some last
and some don't, you know that don't you? if someone comes to
Russia to meet a nice girl and is a good teacher, who are YOU to
be some moral vanguard? who are you? you are nothing? you ought
to be more worried that the largest growing ESL sector in the world
is not getting enough teachers, demand outstrips supply, you need
teachers and what they do in their spare time is not your concern.

You had a bad experience with a Russian woman, awwwwww never
mind, one day somebody will love you for you, but get
rid of the hate and let go of the past and maybe somebody nice will
make room for you in their heart.

As for the 'sun reader' comment, did you know the sun has more
oxbridge educated journalists than any other newspaper? probably not
but from your high and mighty moralistic seat, you don't know much
do you?

Communist Smurf · Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 330 Location: San Francisco

The first time I ever used Dave's ESL forum, this thread was on the top of the Russia forum. I never had a valid reason to post in it. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.

carlos-england,

If you disagree with bobs12, that's fine and perfectly in your right. But don't you think you're taking this a bit too far just to disagree with him? I don't think he's been half as hostile towards you as you have been to him. You're saying some pretty f'ed up things to him I bet you'd never say to him in person. Just let it go and give yourself some rest.

CS

bobs12 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 310 Location: Saint Petersburg

Thanks for support CS Smile

No worries though, I think I'll just let that post speak for itself and leave well alone.

carlos-england · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:30 am Post subject:

Simply stated CS, do you think bobs12 would speak
to me in the lofty arrogant tone he has adopted on this forum
if we were face to face? I can tell you now it would be no, I know nothing about him and you know nothing about me, so keep your opinions
on what would happen if I met anyone face to face to yourself.

I stated an opinion, bobs12 put his portion in and I responded,
the fact that bobs12 is going out with a Russian woman at present
smacks of 'don't do as I do, do as I say' and is irksome, so when it
comes to an internet argument I'm sure he is big and ugly enough
to realize if he dishes it out he has to take it at times.

Communist Smurf · Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 330 Location: San Francisco

bobs12 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 310 Location: Saint Petersburg

carlos-england · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:07 pm Post subject:

CS

Simply put (it needs to be with you..) I posted
what I wrote, as you can all see, Bobs 12 takes
it on himself to reply by personally insulting me and he
gets it back, where he scurries off like a bitch.

As for saying things to my face and giving me a
'kick up the pants' I assure you are not the man to
do it, you are suffering from selected vision, ignoring
the fact that my retorts were in response to bobs12 immature
mud slinging. Yes I stooped to his pathetic level but sometimes
you need to be versatile and withold your full mental capacity.

As for the saying 'do as I say, not as I do/ don't do as I do,
do as I say' either are applicable, I hope you are not this anal
when teaching your students English. Because it would make
for boring lessons for the poor sods wasting their roubles on you.

I'm glad you are not going to continue conversing with
me on this matter, I reckon you and your mate bobs12
should continue talking crap about your hosts using every
half baked racist stereotype going, I'm sure you don't need my
help on that score.

expatella_girl · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:05 am Post subject:

bob, surely you are the only sane expat male in the entire country? I've never seen such heresy come from the keyboard of red-blooded expat.

Sadly you may be the only one who didn't come here to get shagged by as many Russian women as possible. My hat's off to you, dude. You're one of a kind.

I never cease to wonder though, why the Russian girls allow themselves to be so used by foreigners. How can they not see through these rogue men? I often wonder where is their self respect? They have developed a world wide reputation for being both easy and desperate, and live up to it as far as I can tell.

Still, the original poster should get a swift kick for such a shallow motive.
One thinks the girls at home have handed him enough rejections that he sees clearly his bleak future with women of his own backround. Deservedly.