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bj80
Joined: 31 Mar 2017 Posts: 63
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:54 pm Post subject: PGCE from South African Valuable For What? |
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One of my friends is from South Africa, despite me being American.
He advised me to get a PGCE from there because it's a valued teaching license at a low cost.
1. Is a PGCE from South Africa as valuable as other PGCE's?
2. Is a PGCE is good as a US state teaching license?
3. Anything other critical thinking skills I must bring into the equation?
To me, I simply want a teaching credential to get a shot at international schools, etc. |
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currentaffairs
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 828
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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If the PGCE is from a reputable provider and won't be obtained online then it would be useful to have. |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:38 am Post subject: |
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bj80 wrote: |
One of my friends is from South Africa, despite me being American.
He advised me to get a PGCE from there because it's a valued teaching license at a low cost.
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To me, I simply want a teaching credential to get a shot at international schools, etc. |
Since you're American, I suggest getting licensed in the US. There are several programs that support teacher training.
However, if you're gung-ho on a PGCE from South Africa (ZA), do some research to see what the university admission requirements are for international students pursuing a PGCE (if it's even possible). For example, fluency in Afrikaans and/or Xhosa (or some other official S. African language) may be mandatory for some courses and admission into the program. Pre-teachers also may be expected to complete a teaching practicum in ZA. (How familiar are you with the South African educational system?) |
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1st Sgt Welsh
Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 946 Location: Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know anything about whether a South African teaching qualification will be recognized in the States, but, I'm doing a PGCE at the moment through an Australian university and I lived in South Africa for two years. If you are interested primarily in international schools then maybe it might be an idea to contact a reputable international school recruiter (Search, ISS etc.) and ask them their thoughts on the worth of a teaching qualification from the RSA. I wouldn't have thought it would be a problem. Seems to be plenty of certified South African teachers working in their profession abroad, but, anyway....
In regards to universities, I'd recommend the University of Cape Town. I taught there as a tutor (in History) and also conducted research there for my PhD. It's an English-speaking university and has the best academic reputation in Africa. At least that was the case about seven years ago. Cape Town is also one of the world's most beautiful cities, is a great place to live and has plenty going on . Good luck! |
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nomad soul
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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This is what I was referring to in regard to proficiency in one of ZA's other official languages:
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Conversational Xhosa is required for the award of PGCE.; so, an introductory Xhosa course is strongly recommended as part of your undergraduate degree.
Source: University of Cape Town, Thinking of teaching for 2018 |
Anyway, the OP seems to have lost interest in this topic. |
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1st Sgt Welsh
Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 946 Location: Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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nomad soul wrote: |
This is what I was referring to in regard to proficiency in one of ZA's other official languages:
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Conversational Xhosa is required for the award of PGCE.; so, an introductory Xhosa course is strongly recommended as part of your undergraduate degree.
Source: University of Cape Town, Thinking of teaching for 2018 |
Anyway, the OP seems to have lost interest in this topic. |
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That's interesting. Thanks. I read the link, they appear to have introduced that policy in 2014 so that's a fair bit after my time, but, well caught. |
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nomad soul
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Language requirements and culture are something to seriously consider since k-12 teacher education programs (PGCEs and licensure) are designed to meet the specific learning needs of the student demographic of the particular country. Even the ESL/English Language Learner (ELL) public school teachers in my US state have to meet the requirement or preference for Spanish proficiency or some other world language per the ELL/bilingual add-on endorsement. Teacher education programs and licensing in states with a large number of Spanish L1s reflect the language and cultural needs of this student base.
On a related note, some employers/governments abroad don't accept TESOL-related degrees from non-Anglophone countries. They're concerned about quality and/or whether the degree's course content was broad enough to fit their particular citizens' language learning needs.
Folks need to rethink their one-size-fits-all view of educational credentials. |
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bj80
Joined: 31 Mar 2017 Posts: 63
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the information.
I agree that "one-size-fits-all" approach is tempting but often misleading.
I'll look into it. I definitely want more certificates, etc.; but, I find few that can cover all the bases. |
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:55 am Post subject: erm |
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Good for a job with ADEC in the UAE. |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 7:16 am Post subject: Re: erm |
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dragonpiwo wrote: |
Good for a job with ADEC in the UAE. |
Sure, if the PGCE holder is South African. |
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