Site Search:
 
TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

I've seen this a thousand times...

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Alobar



Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 28
Location: USA

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 3:35 pm    Post subject: I've seen this a thousand times... Reply with quote

It happens to a lot of publications. I watched this happen to the Internet Infidels discussion board, for which I was the first "outside" (not an officer of the parent nonprofit corporation) administrator. After I left, they went from a vibrant discussion group to a mutual admiration society where disagreement between nontheists is substantially restricted.

Editing any kind of a publication, whether a newspaper, magazine, website or message board, is very difficult. Not just technically, but also "ideologically". Too permissive, and you end up spammed worse than an alt.sex newsgroup on Usenet. Too restrictive and you end up like Pravda or Fox News.

There is simply no formula for maintaining a balance. A couple of instances of some yahoo pissing off the publisher, and suddenly the internal censorship takes off. Worse yet, it feeds on itself as people--especially Americans--that see themselves as having a commitment and investment in a site complain about the censorship, which serves only to make the publisher more defensive.

Don't get me wrong. Any publisher, including a message board publisher, has every right to publish what she sees fit, and, just as importantly, to refuse to publish what she sees as unfit. This right is fundamental to freedom of the press.

We, the readers and contributors, however, also have some fundamental rights: We can refuse to participate and we can start a competing publication. If the censorship here becomes onerous--and I must state that I've not been here long enough to have any kind of informed opinion--the publication will eventually lose readers to its competitors. If not, it will retain its readers. This is how the free marketplace of ideas works.

I'm not on either side of this debate; as I said, I haven't been here long enough. On general principles from my personal experience and study of ethical philosophy, however, I offer this general advice.

The management would be well-served to listen carefully to feedback. If you respond reflexively with, "I can publish or not publish whatever I please," you run the risk of losing your readership. Regrettably I myself made this mistake at Infidels, losing at least one good contributor.

Readers would be well-served to offer effective feedback. It's less effective to complain that the management has "no right" to censor users; they do have that right. It's much more effective to say, "I find this place less interesting and enjoyable without XYZ."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger
Alobar



Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 28
Location: USA

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops! The above should be in reply to:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=1315
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2011 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Road2Spain - TEFL and Spanish with one year student visa
EBC