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sammysez
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 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:28 pm Post subject: POLYTECHNICAL SCHOOL, no name given, with AMERICAN ACADEMY |
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Male Native English Speaker ESL English Teachers - Eastern Province, Saudi Arabia, American Academy SA
This is an Immediate Hire position with an April 1st Start Date. This is a 6-month contract with the current Completion Date as September 30, 2018.
The pay seems to be quite low at $9,000 Riyals, which they said was attributed to the economy.
I'm editing and adding additional new info which I will also paste at the bottom:
This appears to be a Polytechnic School in Ras-Tanura, close to Dammam, college prep students 18-21 years of age.
The name of the institute is not given.
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Gulezar
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| It sounds like you would be assigned the duties of a "miracle worker": get young Saudi shabab up to a benchmark for a September intact, all during the summer months with a large part being during Ramadan. Lord help you, son! |
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Lord T
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:43 am Post subject: Re: 6months starting April 1 in EASTERN PROVINCE, AMERIC.ACA |
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| sammysez wrote: |
KInda surprised by the start date, as of April 1.
I guess we would be teaching in the summertime.
The pay seems to be quite low at $9,000 Riyals, which they said was attributed to the economy. |
The start date is April Fools' Day. Read the thread on American Academy and don't become one of their fools. |
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leggeymountbatten
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9,000 ?????????
What happened to tefl in Saudi Arabia?? |
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sammysez
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Gulezar wrote: |
| It sounds like you would be assigned the duties of a "miracle worker": get young Saudi shabab up to a benchmark for a September intact, all during the summer months with a large part being during Ramadan. Lord help you, son! |
I didn't even think of Ramadan. Would they lleave us sitting in our rooms or at school with nothing to do? Would we be paid for the month of Ramadan? |
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sammysez
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| leggeymountbatten wrote: |
9,000 ?????????
What happened to tefl in Saudi Arabia?? |
Yes, they are offering 9,000 Riyals because "of the economy." That seems to be the latest excuse. |
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nomad soul
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9,000 ?????????
What happened to tefl in Saudi Arabia?? |
A blah salary for minimal qualifications (per the posting, a BA in any major, CELTA/equivalent cert, and at least 3 years experience). Pretty much entry level. |
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In the heat of the moment
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| sammysez wrote: |
| Gulezar wrote: |
| It sounds like you would be assigned the duties of a "miracle worker": get young Saudi shabab up to a benchmark for a September intact, all during the summer months with a large part being during Ramadan. Lord help you, son! |
I didn't even think of Ramadan. Would they lleave us sitting in our rooms or at school with nothing to do? Would we be paid for the month of Ramadan? |
You'd be expected to teach, although government workers have reduced hours during Ramadan. This would likely mean the length of a teaching hour is reduced. |
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Makkah
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| 9000SAR/mth - not even a salary. |
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Amerrycan Muslim
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Sounds like you’re on the joint COE - MOH program (second phase)... basically you just have to get the students up to A2 on the APTIS exam in 24 weeks time...
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Two off-topic postings have just been deleted. If the petty insults continue, makers of same will not along with their ISPs. |
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Lord T
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:31 am Post subject: |
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American Academy's latest adverts (21-03-2018) on this website and one in Thailand give me the impression they are having difficulty getting teachers (Please correct me if I'm wrong).
May I politely suggest that describing the salary as 'standard Saudi Arabia
base salary' is not a good idea; much better to say exactly how much the teacher will be paid.
Also, please note American Academy, that 9,000 riyals is equal to just under 75,000 Thai baht, not 80,000, at today's rates. I'm sure the last thing you would want to do is mislead people, so I thought I should point that out.
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:56 am Post subject: lmfao |
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| A truly, truly shameful red flag of an offer. |
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In the heat of the moment
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Everyone's saying the salary is low, but it is low only (insulting, even) for permanent, experienced teachers. If a relative newbie wants to 'experience' the Middle East for a short stint and leave with around $13,000* to pay towards student loans or a deposit on an apartment, I wouldn't think it's the worst decision they could make.
Sure, the summer here is absolutely atrocious, lethal even, the students during the summer can be too, everyone who can gets the hell out of dodge and many places are ghost towns (on the plus side traffic is lighter). You may also leave with PTSD and a hatred of teaching/the MENA region... swings and roundabouts.
Come to think of it, my first year in Saudi I was on under 10k and the housing allowance wasn't sufficient. A truly awful company, colleagues and students, but it was a huge uplift on the £350(5,000 RMB)/month I was earning the year before in China! Since then, every year my salary has gone up and no housing to pay for anymore. Plus I work for a nice place with even nicer colleagues. The students aren't half bad either. I'm sure I got my present role because of a good interview and my previous experience in Saudi - it certainly wasn't because of my credentials.
*I think my calculations are accurate but am pleased to be corrected. |
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currentaffairs
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Awful offer. You should also check that a full return ticket is included and that nothing is going to be deducted if your workload goes down over Ramadan.
I would ask for 10,000 SAR for sure if you really have no other options. Tell them that you are ready to jump on the plane and spend the hot summer in the desert for that! |
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