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CNexpatesl



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:33 pm    Post subject: Vinschool Saigon Reply with quote

Since there’s a Vinschool Hanoi thread, I figured there should be one for Saigon. Is Vinscool in Saigon more or less probably run the same as Hanoi? Bad? Good? Micromanaging? Withheld paychecks?

Particularly interested in their kindergartens and preschools, if anyone has experience.
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RustyShackleford



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just happened to speak with someone who worked for Vinschool Saigon.

Basically, they do have cameras in their classrooms and they'll dock you for any infraction. However, the facilities are very nice and the paychecks for certified teachers are more than decent.

Cameras in the classroom are a massive red flag, frankly.
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Mattingly



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RustyShackleford wrote:
I just happened to speak with someone who worked for Vinschool Saigon.

Basically, they do have cameras in their classrooms and they'll dock you for any infraction. However, the facilities are very nice and the paychecks for certified teachers are more than decent.


I assume by "certified" that mean BA + CELTA/TEFL cert?

Just clarifying.


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Cameras in the classroom are a massive red flag, frankly.


Yes, quite a lot of schools have cameras in the classroom these days.
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CHINOISE



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much doers vinschool pay?
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needyreedy



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not enough to put up with the abject stupidity of the upper management, who should be hanging their heads in shame at how badly they’re running these schools - but don't, or won't, because they lack the intelligence, knowledge or integrity to comprehend how bad they are.

The salaries vary from moderate to good depending on what section you’re in (Kindy, AP or Cambridge), whether you’re qualified (PGCE etc. not just a Bachelors + CELTA/TESOL), and quite frankly what mood the notoriously arbitrary and unprofessional HR department is in. They advertise constantly because staff turnover is so high, so it’s not hard to find the job ads with the salary expectations listed.

However, my understanding is that most, if not all, schools across the group are shoddy – partly because it's the same upper management, partly because the purpose of these schools is not to provide a good standard of education to students. Allegedly, its parent company, Vin Group, was told by the Vietnamese government that it could only pursue its big money, commercial ventures on the condition it opened community-based companies like Vinschool and its equally dire medical company, Vinmec (it’s best avoided). These schools have not been opened in the spirit of altruism; they are a means to an end for Vin Group. Vinschool's role is merely to exist, not to succeed. As such, no-one cares, and the upper management, allegedly, have not secured their jobs through merit, but through nepotism or whatever other nefarious means it takes to bag a fancy title because, really, it doesn’t really matter whether they’re good at their jobs or not. All of this sadly equates to poorly run schools, clueless management and an unnecessarily rough ride for teachers.
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