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National Power Academy, Dammam (NPA)

 
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desert_traveller



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:22 am    Post subject: National Power Academy, Dammam (NPA) Reply with quote

A brand new HRDF-TVTC-Saudi Aramco outfit, running among others 3-year diploma programs in electrical and mechanical engineering, renewable and nuclear energy, and so on.

Website:

http://www.npa.edu.sa/en/

Article on the foreign operator's website:

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/local/bismarck/bsc-starts-energy-training-program-in-saudi-arabia/article_62c397b4-5eb6-5181-82fc-05fdc4180cae.html

Does anyone know anybody who works there or have any information on the package they offer?
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pm me your details if you want me to pass them on to someone there. I helped run some training for them so have some contacts.
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waltgomez



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to some:

Not very stable. Proceed with caution.

Some 15 teachers have been fired by this outfit since October.

Recently, that top firer was also fired.

Apparently, there are also difficulties with obtaining proper visas for the teachers.

Some fired teachers are apparently suing.

I would not work for them.

Look for an older company. These are too new and not established. Visa problems, as well.
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voyagerksa



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

waltgomez wrote:


Some 15 teachers have been fired by this outfit since October.





With this - avoid. Another crazy dishonest Saudi outfit.
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EFL Educator



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to me to avoid teaching at this place at all costs.....I don't understand why American managers fire their staff constantly.....maybe they think they are still at home and that Saudi is a place where they can get away with it too! Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=116962&sid=be587978780d51dd9a840a2d922d91d0
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waltgomez



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is with Bismark State College in North Dacota. Newbies in Saudi. The American dean was the one who had apparently fired 15 American teachers. Then he got fired himself. It was Americans who were doing all those things, not Saudis.

Weekend work. Teachers were asked to have work meetings on weekends and assigned work to be done over weekend. No extra pay. The Management also came to work in shorts.

One teacher was told he was fired on a weekend and had to go and see the dean on that weekend to be told he was fired. Real sadistic stuff.

Incorrect visa instructions were given resulting in severe inconveniences for some people. Such as: detention/jailing/deportation. The Embassy did not issue visas to teachers who still had old business visas from other companies. The management said it was Ok to go in on the old visas. Detention/inability to leave the country and deportation were the result for two teachers. One was jailed for a week.

There was inappropriate behavior of management re: Saudi customs and traditions.

Apparently, the company is still having difficulties with getting proper visas.

In short, run fast!


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js424u



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am American and I hate working in this country (USA). I taught in Japan and Thailand for many years and was never fired. I have gone through so many jobs in the States because they will fire you for no reason. Sometimes they just don't like you and they will fire you! You have to go on unemployment and find a new job and it happens again and again. I am in office jobs here. Half of my friends here haven't lasted more than 3 years in a job and most have done nothing really bad or firable to deserve that kind of treatment. The US is really behind the rest of the developed world in employee rights.
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caliph



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting fired in Saudi for no reason is very common. Read through this forum for anecdotal evidence. At least in America you don’t have visa problems, or threats of going to jail based on student accusations.
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AbeCross



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:30 pm    Post subject: apples and oranges Reply with quote

"The US is really behind the rest of the developed world in employee rights." Indeed, the USA lags far behind other advanced nations in this respect. In America, labor unions have been demonized and CEOs have been glorified for decades. The result —expendable employees—is hardly surprising.
Comparing this aspect of American culture with the TEFL profession, however, is fraught with difficulty. TEFL has not carved out its own niche in the academic world. Perhaps TEFL's uncertain status contributes to its problems, and those problems go far beyond teacher turnover. In KSA, and elsewhere, the TEFL industry is inexorably headed for its nadir.
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voyagerksa



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are insane half of the time, and any other time, peculiarly unable to understand the responsibilities of running a school, and how to responsibly treat teachers as well as any one else.
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jaffa



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

waltgomez wrote:


Some 15 teachers have been fired by this outfit since October.

Recently, that top firer was also fired.

Some fired teachers are apparently suing.



Oh man, I know it's not funny for the teachers in this outfit, but this sounds just like a re-run of the McGill farce I witnessed from a distance in Jubail about 8 years ago. The Firer-in-Chief there was an Iraqi on a power trip and no doubt the character described above is of the same type. Though it is poetic justice that he also got canned. Was he wearing shorts? Or a miniskirt? Laughing

I've had 3 KSA jobs and easily the best boss was a Saudi - great guy and very laid-back. The rest were non-Saudi egomaniacs with nothing to offer other than arrogance. It's a shame for all concerned that direct hire jobs are dying out because they really make the desert situation far more bearable.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My funniest memory of this place was when I was part of a team carrying out a site inspection prior to their first students arriving. The new dean, fresh from leading at an international school in the area, was waxing lyrical about how wonderful it was all going to be.

Then he got carried away and, in a room full of much more experienced personnel, he blurted out, "I can't wait to start a choir. These guys can sing!"

There was an audible intake of breath around the room, thirty seconds of extremely uncomfortable silence and a few tumbleweeds before anyone spoke again.

Needless to say, he left before the choir was formed...
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hobartwells



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, the old American management was demoted and new people were brought in. NPA is not rehiring those who got fired by the spit-fire dragon American firing boss. They are not hiring anybody.
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NostrandQ



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:27 pm    Post subject: Latest News from North Dakota regarding NPA Reply with quote

Here’s the latest on what the Bismarck Tribune says about Bismarck State University’s affiliation with NPA.

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/local/bismarck/bismarck-state-college-to-review-partnership-with-saudi-institute-amid/article_8cbd0668-89c3-561e-bbcb-2c8e56206f97.html
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