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'Some' and 'Any' as determiners at elementary level

 
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Jin



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
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Location: England

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2003 7:51 am    Post subject: 'Some' and 'Any' as determiners at elementary level Reply with quote

Plea for help from from all you experianced teachers out there. Confused

I'm in the second week of my TESOL course, which I am throughly enjoying. However, as I haven't much experiance in teaching so I was wondering if I could get your help on this topic.

I have looked in books, and they have been quite helpful, but there is nothing like getting advice from people who have taught this topic many times.

Question The question am trying to answer is: What particular aspects of the form and function would I need to concentrate on for an elementary class?

Also, would my ESOL students have any problems learning this topic, for example with mother tongue interference, apparent contradictions and anomalies, phonological problems, etc.

I will be looking forward to reading your responses.

Thanking you in advance Smile
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 2129
Location: 中国

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2003 9:45 am    Post subject: hope this helps Reply with quote

Dear Jin:

Here are a few tips on how to explain this stuff:

1. Some is used in positive sentences.
I'd like some sugar.

2. Any is used in questions and negatives.
Is there any sugar in this tea?
Have you got any brothers or sisters?
We don't have any bread.
I didn't buy any apples.

3. Some is also used when making requests and offers.
Can I have some milk?
Would you like some tea?

At the elementary level, that's about as far as I go. Good luck, Jin Exclamation

Regards,
kENt
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2003 11:11 am    Post subject: Just ask any experienced teacher Reply with quote

Dear keNt,
" 3. Some is also used when making requests and offers.
Can I have some milk? Would you like some tea? "
Ah, no thanks.
But " some " can be used with lots of questions besides requests and offers:

Are you taking some books with you?
Do you know some good examples?

I think it's easier just to say that " any " is used with negative statements, but that " some " can be used with positive statements and with questions.
Moreover, there's another meaning of " any " ( " it doesn't matter which " ) that can be used with positive statements:

You can buy that at any bookstore.

Regards,
John
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