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Luder



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: smoking Reply with quote

So what's up? Are the new anti-smoking policies down there being enforced? Is it now possible to drink an espresso without having also to breathe in someone else's smoke? Let us know.
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sugar061



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and it is great!
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jrein



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:53 am    Post subject: if you can't deal with a little second hand smoke Reply with quote

then stay home and make your espresso there. the rest of the world shouldn't have to suffer because you don't like the smell or you're scared of cancer.
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jnesta1



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then you won't mind if I fart in your face?
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TanyaFromOregon



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:15 am    Post subject: FUNNY!!!! Reply with quote

OMG, Jnesta, that was too funny. My opinion is that a fart in the face wouldn't be the equivalent, though, unless you could somehow increase their risk for cancer with it. If people want to smoke, fine. But they shouldn't smoke somewhere where they are leaving others with no choice but to suck in their fumes. I do think, though, that there should still be smoking sections most everywhere. After all, the poor saps are absolutely addicted, and the nice Government chooses to keep tobacco legal, so we shouldn't really blame people for being/getting hooked, should we?
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jnesta1



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tanya, I can't remember where I first heard that, but it stuck. And I agree with you wholeheartedly. Except about the smoking sections. In my perfect world, people would only be allowed to smoke in places where it could only affect them, like in their cars with closed windows and their homes. Though they are addicted, I believe the choice to start is just that: a choice. And there are so many options today to help those who want to quit. And for those who can't quit, let them pollute their own air.

Didn't you have another post? Did you get a response to that?
JN
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In your perfect world...

Cars pollute, certain countries continue not to sign the Kyoto Agreement, and so on and so forth.

Are you a mobile phone user, incidentally? (Preparing to rant)
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jnesta1



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, i'm not. But you must be a smoker, from your defensive answer. Best to you, but don't ruin my health with your habit. Your rights end where my body begins.[/quote]
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iīm not being defensive.

I smoke, I smoke and so what?

īYour rights end where my my body begins.ī (And quote from whom...?)

Fair enough.

Donīt wear cheap perfume.

Donīt fart.

Donīt eat stinky food.

And certainly, I would think that smoking causes far fewer deaths than being American does, considering the mess that Iraq has become.

Oops, I forgot to mention BAT.
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jnesta1



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, you're not being defensive. Enjoy your cancer.
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the quotation?
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sheepgirl



Joined: 15 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:09 pm    Post subject: smoking Reply with quote

I just thought I'd add- I saw this sign in a hostel in New Zealand
"I understand that smoking is your pleasure
The by-product of your pleasure is cigarette smoke
it gets in my hair and clothes, and destroys my lungs.
I have my pleasure too -
I enjoy a bottle of Lion Red [local beer] or two
every now and then.
The by-product of my pleasure is urine.
How would you like it if I went into your room
and pissed all over your hair and clothes?"

I'm allergic to cigarette smoke - in Montreal I can't go out to a bar or restaurant because most of them don't have any non-smoking sections, I'll stay twenty minutes and then my eyes run copiously and I have trouble breathing - it's happened to me that I stopped breathing and physically couldn't intake a breath. It's scary.
So when I'm at home I don't go out.

I agree - it should be banned from any unventilated public places.
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a bunch of cry-babies!

Smoking is one of the least offensive habits to be enjoyed these days (short of vole-strangling), yet consistently attracts so much criticism.

All you mobile phone users will thank the smokers of the world on the day that you develop brain cancer. Our tobacco taxes will help you, you bunch of noisy gits, so stop whining about a little bit of smoke.

As for sheep, stop feeding them carcinogenic substances. Stop processing wool with ozone-layer-threatening chemicals.

Stop travelling across the world in big aeroplanes.

Stop everything...
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jnesta1



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HL, You Chimney,

You seem to think that one bad habit justifes others. As for smoking being one of teh "least offensive habits," that also sounds like a rationalization from someone who does it. You lash out at other groups--Americans, drivers, cell phone users--because you feel attacked. A very simple way to stop feeling attacked is to stop your disgusting habit! And if you can't do that then don't take things so personally.

Your reference to cell phone users makes no sense either. If they get brain cancer that's their business. They are not giving it to anyone else. Your habit directly causes other people harm. It is now well documented that second hand smoke causes everything from cancer to allergies to asthma. Or are you employed by a tobacco company and in denial of these facts too?

I really don't care if you smoke. Just don't do it where I ahve to breathe the air, don't throw your butts on my Earth, and don't throw your ashes out your car window. What you do to your body is your business. What you do to mine is mine.
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learn how to spell.
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